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6/17/2025, 8:32:10 PM
>>17768859
I'm just going to copy paste everytime this thread is posted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vazimba
Because there was almost "no one" there until "recently". You'd have to understand a brief overview of the peopling of Africa and Madagascar. Swathes of mainland East Africa within TseTse fly / Sleeping Sickness territory were inhabited by a Hadza / KhoiSan - like hunter gatherer peoples until around 500AD until the Bantu came. Hunter Gatherers have fairly low population densities, farmers, in this case the Bantu, have higher ones. Farmers absorb and displace these groups very easily.
The people that would have likely had a head start colonizing the area, Nilotics, Cushitics, and Nilo-Cushitic pastoralist cattle herders couldn't venture further south past Kenya, because the TseTse fly would kill their cattle, so instead of changing their entire lifestyle, they just remained within those borders. The Bantu absorbed the ones further south with some pockets of Nil slightly further south like in Tanzania like the Iraqw.
Also natives did reach Madagascar before Austronesians. There were some hunter gathering foragers there around 2000BC. It's likely that they were so small in number they got immediately absorbed.
Austronesians arrived in waves starting 350BC to around 550AD, with earlier waves that likely mixed with those HG like the Vazimba got absorbed by later waves. The Bantu arrived in East Africa around 500AD, and centuries later around 1000AD, likely after reaching critical population density on the mainland, started to venture into Madagascar. The Bantu arrived in the area as the Austronesian expansion ended there, before that most of the entire continent below the Horn of Africa was populated solely by Hunter Gatherers.
Some maps.
I'm just going to copy paste everytime this thread is posted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vazimba
Because there was almost "no one" there until "recently". You'd have to understand a brief overview of the peopling of Africa and Madagascar. Swathes of mainland East Africa within TseTse fly / Sleeping Sickness territory were inhabited by a Hadza / KhoiSan - like hunter gatherer peoples until around 500AD until the Bantu came. Hunter Gatherers have fairly low population densities, farmers, in this case the Bantu, have higher ones. Farmers absorb and displace these groups very easily.
The people that would have likely had a head start colonizing the area, Nilotics, Cushitics, and Nilo-Cushitic pastoralist cattle herders couldn't venture further south past Kenya, because the TseTse fly would kill their cattle, so instead of changing their entire lifestyle, they just remained within those borders. The Bantu absorbed the ones further south with some pockets of Nil slightly further south like in Tanzania like the Iraqw.
Also natives did reach Madagascar before Austronesians. There were some hunter gathering foragers there around 2000BC. It's likely that they were so small in number they got immediately absorbed.
Austronesians arrived in waves starting 350BC to around 550AD, with earlier waves that likely mixed with those HG like the Vazimba got absorbed by later waves. The Bantu arrived in East Africa around 500AD, and centuries later around 1000AD, likely after reaching critical population density on the mainland, started to venture into Madagascar. The Bantu arrived in the area as the Austronesian expansion ended there, before that most of the entire continent below the Horn of Africa was populated solely by Hunter Gatherers.
Some maps.
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