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7/22/2025, 5:21:45 PM
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Because you misrepresent the argument.
Nobody wants cartoons to die. Some want the system changed over quality issues or companies are focusing more on money than art. Part of me does want to see big corpos lean so heavily into AI that they lose the sauce and the masses are able to see them for the shiesters they are.
But I also love AI. As a tool, whether for references, tieing things together, or just genning for shitposts is amazing. Ai will not replace artists, its revolutionizing clip art.
But what boils my blood are the fucks who want to take away or limit these tools. Let's be real, maybe I can't see a motion picture without paying ethically but 2d pieces that are posted online should retain right protection but shouldn't be off the table for my AI to train off of. As long as I'm not genning to lie to you and say it's an original or even that I drew it, the ethics of a human tracing off your work for shits and giggles or research and development vs an AI doing the exact same thing shouldn't be any different.
Also, I really think the sooner we stop saying "AI gens have no human intent or vision" the better. No, I will not claim genning takes the same amount of time or effort drawing does (I do both, not well but I do). I will not claim that I have 100% control over the piece genned, and I will not act like it's of a comprable deliverable quality. What I will tell you is there absolutely is intent, vision, and trial and error in writing paragraphs of description for a piece I have in mind. I regenning to weed out errors or details that don't fit my vision like redrawing a bad starting hand in cards, and I often refining my descriptions and reorganizing my tokens much like redrawing outlines that don't look correct. I am making the machine output what I want it to, if you want to critisize me for being less than concerned with the details in between then go ahead, but let's not act like it's not a different medium and technique of expression.
Because you misrepresent the argument.
Nobody wants cartoons to die. Some want the system changed over quality issues or companies are focusing more on money than art. Part of me does want to see big corpos lean so heavily into AI that they lose the sauce and the masses are able to see them for the shiesters they are.
But I also love AI. As a tool, whether for references, tieing things together, or just genning for shitposts is amazing. Ai will not replace artists, its revolutionizing clip art.
But what boils my blood are the fucks who want to take away or limit these tools. Let's be real, maybe I can't see a motion picture without paying ethically but 2d pieces that are posted online should retain right protection but shouldn't be off the table for my AI to train off of. As long as I'm not genning to lie to you and say it's an original or even that I drew it, the ethics of a human tracing off your work for shits and giggles or research and development vs an AI doing the exact same thing shouldn't be any different.
Also, I really think the sooner we stop saying "AI gens have no human intent or vision" the better. No, I will not claim genning takes the same amount of time or effort drawing does (I do both, not well but I do). I will not claim that I have 100% control over the piece genned, and I will not act like it's of a comprable deliverable quality. What I will tell you is there absolutely is intent, vision, and trial and error in writing paragraphs of description for a piece I have in mind. I regenning to weed out errors or details that don't fit my vision like redrawing a bad starting hand in cards, and I often refining my descriptions and reorganizing my tokens much like redrawing outlines that don't look correct. I am making the machine output what I want it to, if you want to critisize me for being less than concerned with the details in between then go ahead, but let's not act like it's not a different medium and technique of expression.
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