Thread 149502527

Why do so many anons on /co/ seem to want artists and animators replaced by AI?
What is there to gain?

>>149502527 (OP)
>Why do people without the talent, dedication, or courage to make art want to replace other people that have those qualities with AI
Sour grapes, spite, political indoctrination
Pick one or all

no more artists and animators

Has it ever occurred to you that people on the anonymous board site are just talking shit

>>149502527 (OP)
Haters gonna hate

>>149502564
>Has it ever occurred to you

>>149502589
show me a real instance of any of these being said

>>149502527 (OP)
Diminished returns, no trust left in either industry or sector to provide the quality of content they desire.
Also with AI there's no fear of having to separate art from artists, because the entire process is fully detached already and thus cannot be treated as personal aspect

>>149502527 (OP)
For the most part we don’t want artists replaced with AI, we want artists *we don’t like* replaced with AI. If you are a good artist you have nothing to worry about. But I saw a person with a xitter profile full of beanmouth drawn on scrap paper curse out the guy who drew this (not AI, just an AI character). Also, I swear on my life I’ve commissioned at least fifty pieces of art over the years here from anons and the old commission threads on /aco/. Roughly one in six asked to be paid up front and then ghosted me or took months and months of bitching at to get the drawing I asked for. What other “profession” is it this common for people to just not create the product because they burned out or whatever?
A lot of you are very bad people who pretty much deserve what is coming. If you have talent and you can make a deadline you’ll probably be alright

>>149502527 (OP)
>What is there to gain
AI art evangelists come in three flavors:
1 - business bros that believe they can profit off of an AI production pipeline
2 - bitter, lazy, uncreative people that think the shit art trapped in their head will be freed by AI and won't be shit by virtue of their bad ideas
3 - /pol/brain schizos that think artist=leftist=enemy and just want to see people suffer (or use AI to build their own stupid propaganda)

>>149502558
"pOliTIKal InDOcTruNatSHioN!!!!!!!!!"
ah yes I remember when I got indoctrinated into being an ACAB antifa Islamic terrorist when I watched an episode of Ren and stimpy
that is totally a very real thing that happens and its definitely not just you being a manchild so petulant you throw a tantrum whenever a cartoon show tells people to share food and love their neighbors 100% totally

>>149502715
>I hate artists because I paid up front for commissions from random anons that didn't have any kind of business front or persistent presence
You're retarded

>>149502725
What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?

There's nothing to gain and nothing to lose.
The way I see it, it's just one flavor of shit being replaced with a different, smellier flavor of shit.

>>149502730
Half price up front. Which I’m fine with, especially since a lot of them did send a rough sketch. Alas, I was too trusting. Now I just use AI for my porn while sticking with a few tried and true artists for non porn stuff

>>149502527 (OP)
They are talentless and have rotten personalities.

>>149502589
THIS

People don't actually like artists, they just pretend they do because they can draw the cool doodles. AI art is taking off not only because it's faster and cheaper, but because with AI art you don't have to put up with some faggot traumadumping for 20 minutes about how Donald J Trump personally stole his christmas or whatever.

>>149502527 (OP)
>replaced
I don't want anybody to be replaced; I just want artists and animators to stop sticking their heads in the sand and pretending like an entire branch of computer science is going to fucking disappear if they just don't acknowledge it. I want them actively contributing to the discussion and development of these tools because I think that this technology has *infinitely* more potential if developers start designing them around highly-specialized applications that still require creative ability, input, and refinement instead of trying to make more half-assed all-purpose, zero-effort slop generators.

The technology isn't going away - it can't be ignored, it can't be boycotted, and it won't be locked away by legislation. Artists and animators can choose to actively shape how new technology is adapted and incorporated, or they can accept letting others decide it for them; but they can't abdicate taking part in the process and still expect a say in what happens.

>>149502715
Feels like pic related, ya cheap bastard.

>>149502842
>star trek reference
A real artist would have referenced nu-Star Trek with the black chick everyone hates

>>149502589
yup

>>149502851
that would completely defeat the purpose of anon's reference; the borg's entire schtick is assimilating everything that makes you unique as an individual and replacing it with soulless machinery.

nutrek nogs are obnoxious, but they're not a good parallel for the topic.

>>149502883
>unique as an individual and replacing it with soulless machinery
Surely he didn't mean to compare the digital artist landscape with this, where everyone does wokeshit beanmouth or sameface supermodel body

>>149502527 (OP)
They're either bitter about their own efforts not panning out and think AI will help them succeed where they failed, shills who are basically trying to cover for any huge fallouts or setbacks in the budding industry, or far more likely they're just trolls who know how much people are already pissed and annoyed at the never-ending image spam and use AI threads as an excuse to stoke the fires more. Though the idea that artists and animators will be "replaced" is already presumptuous, as only those companies that are scrooge mcduck levels of penny pinching misers would ever delude themselves into thinking that AI will just keep printing out pictures for free forever. It's far more likely that higher-end artists will still be on call for people who are very particular about what they want, while other artists will just find ways to adapt the AI to work for them and have their own training to help them fix any flaws that end up made by the AI creation.

Basically, there's nothing to gain but their perceived amusement that other people are annoyed by their constant chants of "you will be replaced". Doesn't matter if it's true or not, it only matters to them that someone is upset by the idea.

>>149502774
Anon
The solution isn't to avoid artists
The solution is to not be such a fucking retard
Buy commissions from people with fucking commission pages on established sites with a persistent presence
Of fucking course a random anon with no name or presence or reputation is going to run away with the cash, dipshit

>>149502914
This. It's the equivalent of buying cars from randos on facebook marketplace instead of a dealership and being surprised when you get scammed or mugged half the time.

>>149502913
>/tg/
So are you also a luddite about Critical Role and the like bringing attention to your once dying hobby?

>>149502558
>>149502913
>"Did I do something to piss people off?"
>"No. It's the non-artists who are wrong."
It is inconceivable to the narcissist that he may have done something wrong.

I don't but if you want the Renaissance of 2D western animation, AI is probably the only way, realistically

>>149502936
Nigga, they fucking ran away from Twitter because it was "too toxic" and started their own lamer version of it

Fun-fact_: Engagement in bluesky is insanely low AND they just had a big controversy surrounding child pornography

>>149502527 (OP)
We don't, we just want the talentless hacks to fuck off

>>149502942
Anon, the revival of 2D western animation would require effort, which is the antithesis to AIslop.
It's used because the creators DON'T want to put in any effort.

>>149502965
>muh effort

>>149502558
/thread

>>149502913
>>149502934
BTFO

>>149502942
I doubt we will get a western rensiannce, not because it can't but because by numbers most AI users are weebs. If we get AI content, 9/10 it will be anime related. /co/'s AI general and users are light years behind those of /h/ and /e/ for example. So the weebification of western media will continue if not accelerate.

>>149502527 (OP)
Because "artists" are type of retards to spend all day tweeting about stupid shit instead of you know, doing their fucking jobs

>>149502527 (OP)
I only want the Cadre of lefty marxists who took over the industry and pushed out the creatives to be replaced with ai
And the reason is to vacate the industry so people who care about the art and have passion can have room to flourish again.

>>149502527 (OP)
Because you misrepresent the argument.
Nobody wants cartoons to die. Some want the system changed over quality issues or companies are focusing more on money than art. Part of me does want to see big corpos lean so heavily into AI that they lose the sauce and the masses are able to see them for the shiesters they are.
But I also love AI. As a tool, whether for references, tieing things together, or just genning for shitposts is amazing. Ai will not replace artists, its revolutionizing clip art.
But what boils my blood are the fucks who want to take away or limit these tools. Let's be real, maybe I can't see a motion picture without paying ethically but 2d pieces that are posted online should retain right protection but shouldn't be off the table for my AI to train off of. As long as I'm not genning to lie to you and say it's an original or even that I drew it, the ethics of a human tracing off your work for shits and giggles or research and development vs an AI doing the exact same thing shouldn't be any different.
Also, I really think the sooner we stop saying "AI gens have no human intent or vision" the better. No, I will not claim genning takes the same amount of time or effort drawing does (I do both, not well but I do). I will not claim that I have 100% control over the piece genned, and I will not act like it's of a comprable deliverable quality. What I will tell you is there absolutely is intent, vision, and trial and error in writing paragraphs of description for a piece I have in mind. I regenning to weed out errors or details that don't fit my vision like redrawing a bad starting hand in cards, and I often refining my descriptions and reorganizing my tokens much like redrawing outlines that don't look correct. I am making the machine output what I want it to, if you want to critisize me for being less than concerned with the details in between then go ahead, but let's not act like it's not a different medium and technique of expression.

>>149502965
There's absolutely zero chance that they will suddenly get dozens of skilled animators or corporations take risks and invest in the development of dozens of skilled animators for years in the west. ZERO.
At least AI has potentials that we still don't really know.

I'm good friends with a musclegirl furry porn artist, he used to hate AI like the rest of them until he found himself(his artstyle) in an AI model website.
After seething for a good while he started fucking around with it, now he uses the AI to cut his workload in half while still doing the perfomative anti-AI slacktivism on Bluesky.

>>149502717
>bitter, lazy, uncreative people that think the shit art trapped in their head will be freed by AI and won't be shit by virtue of their bad ideas
Oh wow you're the one sounding bitter. Is it impossible that a person can have good ideas but lack technical art skills?

>>149503059
You niggers cry about tweening in animation and you expect AI to look any better?

>>149503086
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S MY GOD(atheist by the way) GIVEN RIGHT TO SPEND 75% OF MY WORKDAY TWEETING, DON'T GO TO A PROMPTER IT'S NOT FAIR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ebin

>>149503086
Ai animation does look better than tweening. I just made a 6 minute long bob's burgers animation using ai generated clips.
If made plenty of error and my editing was haphazard but what it DID do well was turn arounds on the vertical axis. The kind of shit that modern animators dont even bother doing. Just flip the vector asset and put in a WHIPCRACK sound effect.

>>149503086
I don't cry about anything in animation. I'm just saying there's absolutely no chance there will be the revival of 2D western animation without new technologies. That's just simply unrealistic.

>>149503114
Post them

>b-b-b-b-but muh Mysteriously Wealthy Furries
it's over

>>149503116
The new technologies will gut the industry. The unions will lobby to restrict it. The studios still will. Theyll constsntly fight and implode. Fuck them.
On the otherside, ai has the power to churn mass. It's not an automatic artist it's an automatic art studio. It's the panacea to corner cutting for indie animators.

>>149503078
I understnad some artists feeling threatened by their works being used in models, but philosophically I cannot think of a greater honor. To have your style, your works, your passion incorporated into machines that use what is considered quality to flesh out and shape the machine's understanding means
>someone found your work worthy of learning from
>your style will permiate and persist in culture through outputs
Text to speech has already copied people's voices and are used so much that Twitch, Tiktok, Intagram and Youtube alone have rose a bunch of base voices beyond popularity. Those tts voices will be remembered as heavily as musicians and political leaders, maybe more (recall the study of more 5 year olds recognizing Ronald McDonald than Jesus, same shit)
Screenshot this as some fat cope, but after death your existsnce in the zeitgeist of human culture and therefor the human world will be seen and echo in future AI gens. If one truly dies when they are forgotten, AI will grant you a significant boost to your seat in anthropology and the arts.

>>149503120
Yeah I will when the time is right.

>>149503130
Why did the cat girl get less thick, and therefore less hot?

>>149503133
you know, I'm not really pro-AI or anything like that but we don't know what it will be like in 2050

>>149502527 (OP)
That 500 post thread yesterday not enough for you, OP? Okay, observe this one thing: Nobody ever hates on artists when they show up to draw in the course of ordinary threads. Yet threads like this which explicitly mention “AI” are full of frothing artist hate. Doesn’t seem very organic, does it?

>>149503146
Meaning you made it up.

>>149502934
No clue, I don't watch Critical Role. Why?

>>149502936
Not even an artist, lol

>>149503199
yes, with AI

>>149503130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ahTiQhooEY

>>149503130
The story told here is quite entertaining. The animation is shaky, what akward walk anis they have, and the lion doing some weird cleaning press on the bench looks dangerous, I can't imagined this prompt artist intended to make it look like that. Also, not bad but peeve of mine is how the white cat seemed to become thinner after the first scene. I had no indication she was also body building so I assume it's inconsistent AI drawing, not intentional, but I only care because she imo looked best in her first scene.
I'm sure AI is not yet finished growing, but as it stands I understand and frankly agree these animations strike more as cheap youtube content farm stuff like a mobile game ad rather than a respected piece of work. I would not pay to watch a movie about this, I would schadenfreude it like Foodfight at best.
BUT just like cruddy flash animations of old I still support this because someone took the time to make and tell a story that in the end entertained me. Even if it didn't I believe I see the human intent. If I'm wrong and this was 100% written and prompted itself by an AI then fair enough, I've been fooled before and I'll be fooled again. But I absolutely support people having access to these tools and look forward to being entertained or shocked by what comes next for the technology.

>>149503197
>threads where people can get a doodle if they beg hard enough
Great comparison, especially when you have guys requesting the same fucking thing for months.

>>149503082
Anyone with a good idea but lacking technical art skills can find someone else to do it for them if they're that obsessed with getting it done. If cripples can put their mind to it and make art, nobody has any excuse to not either try or find someone who can do it if they're too lazy to do it themselves.

Spite and the insane fantasy that they finally have the right tool to become famous.

>>149503252
>CRIPPLES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE AI BECAUSE I SAID SO
Do you ever listen to yourself?

>>149503259
Do you even read what you're whining about, or do the voices in your head just assume shit?

>>149502527 (OP)
>Why do so many anons on /co/ seem to want artists and animators replaced by AI?
A combination of politics and misery loving company

>>149503250
>guys requesting the same fucking thing for months
Try years, also try mods doing the spamming xirselves
We already discussed that in the backup site. It was pretty funny remembering when the drawfags' discord got leaked in a drawthread

This thing is entirely /co/mblr and /ic/'s fault for turning on any artist that came from this place after gaining any semblance of fame

>Baalbuddy
>Plague of Gripes
>Herny
>Brokenlynx

the list is fucking endless

>>149503269
>misery loving company
so that's why /co/ keeps losing users yaer after year, we're just so goddamn happy

>>149503303
More like the amount of depressed fuckos either dying of cardiac arrest or finally taking matters into their own hands

>>149503274
>Turning on
>Boards are a monolith
Rope. And convenient how you left out that the very same schizos hounding after those people are very likely to be the same AI schizos that spam these sort of threads.

>>149503323
>I NEVER LIKED THAT BAALBUDDY FAGGOT IN THE FIRST PLACE, HE ONLY HAS ONE JOKE
ebin

>>149503082
NTA. It's not impossible. I'd even go as far to say I'd consider myself an AI agnostic but so long as those "great ideas" are
>>149464455
>What if Elsa but in a different dress?
or
>>149466974
>What if a Steven Universe gem was a crying baby eating cheese?
we're not really missing out on some great masterwork that failed to exist for lack of ability.

Not to mention >>149503252 has the right of it. Look at the guy that created Mob Psycho 100 and One Punch Man. His art is ROUGH. Maybe some would even call it shit. But his ideas were good enough that they got adapted and redrawn by better artists. Whereas this method just throws in the towel; if you're cutting corners on one aspect your audience is going to assume there are corners cut everywhere.

>>149502527 (OP)
>What is there to gain?
good cartoons

>>149502822
This 1000%. When the cavemen stop losing their minds over seeing fire is when we can finally have a good fucking meal for everyone.

>>149503274
My favorite is Bigdad hate, people just turn into complete drooling retards when it comes to hating on him

>>149503356
>HOE NOF
What did he mean by this...?

>>149503347
>ONE
I want to be perfectly clear here:
ONE's line work was and is terrible, but that's not the entirety of sequential art.
ONE blew up not just because of writing but because he is INCREDIBLE at visual pacing and composition. His paneling, his camera choices, the specific moments he chooses to portray, these are all extremely strong from the start of OPM before Murata redrew it.

One of the reasons that "idea guys with AI" is such a bad idea for visual art is that these idea guys don't understand the medium enough to give valid direction and feedback.

>>149503347
>dude just hire your own Murata lmao
Do you listen to yourself?

>>149503356
>Good meal
>Sword clash with neither figure pushing weight aimed at the opposing target
>Travis is blocking his front while Hank has his sword directly aimed at the back of his neck
>Aitard decided this was acceptable
They're not sending their best

>>149503376
Travis loves the hoes

>>149503426
how does it feel to be a living meme?
>>149502589

>>149503448
>No defense
They're not sending their best

>>149503426
>>149503473
You do realize the whole
>not sending their best
thing is a Trump saying, right?

>>149503482
Yes? Do you think I care? Did you really think this was a gotcha?

>>149503473
>seething about le evil chud jewtubers
>while using trump's catchphrases
>posting anime
>on /co/mblr
This nigga isn't a clown, he's the whole circus

>>149502527 (OP)
Friendly reminder to the actual anons here that we're getting a new wave of ai shill threads to hide the news of Stargate, the biggest AI project ever, is fizzling into a puff of smoke as we speak. SoftBank, one of the primary funders of the OpenAI's previous VC round, is no longer part of the project, which means there's a good chance they're also pulling back from the 20 billion (which was initially 40 billion) they promised to OpenAI to keep them running for another year.

The mania's wearing off, the funding is drying up, and every single AI company is swimming in debt. So we get threads like this to hide the inevitable collapse of it all.

>>149503518
>Phonefag
Anon's right, they're not sending their best.

>>149503539
>two more weeks, artsissies

>>149503518
>Phonefag aitard can't defend the current argument so he has to search image hashes from a year ago to try and claw a desperate point out of thin air
Actually embarrassing

>>149503426
Yeah, it's not my best gen, but now imagine what could be if AI and artists actually teamed up and made shit. They'd be unstoppable. The sooner we stop acting like Isreal and Palestinian the sooner we can bring peace to the Middle East of art.

>>149503561
While noble in theory I believe there are two major issues with your scenario. A seasoned artist or even hobby artist is very unlikely to want to delegate tasks to AI, since the AI will generate an output that's closer to what they imagine than if they just drew it themselves. And second is that, when you do delegate to the machine, you deprive yourself of learning experience that comes from actually drafting the pose yourself.

>>149503541
>>149503558
>muh evil phonerinos
>totally not hecking me btw
What's the matter? Simping for bluesky artists not enough? You have to go cope in the incel support group board?

right about now is the part where embarrassingly progressive /co/mblr turns racist and starts accusing everyone of being indian

>>149503619
>Phoneposter doubles down
Sad!
They're not sending their best.

>>149503601
>And second is that, when you do delegate to the machine, you deprive yourself of learning experience that comes from actually drafting the pose yourself.
I won't deny reducing the size of a hill won't build my muscles as strong, and it's not a useless skill to grapple, but I see it like how higher level math classes allow calculators for the simple calculations through a complex problem. If I want to divide X by Y I could do the long division by hand, but if the meat and potatoes has yet to come I also could see one wanting to streamline it (assuming of course the output gen is satisfactory to the artist).
Maybe traditional claymation/stop motion is a good paralell to draw here, since so few people actually commit to it and would rather use CG with choppy framerates or artificially less fluid animstion to mimmick the stop motion style. Both can and do work if done right.

>>149503636
But you ARE Indian
I can see you

>>149503638
>N-no! Stop using that phrase it's OUR phrase! I need muh imaginary red tribe blue tribe dichotomy!

>>149503561
Fuck off. No competent artist wants to waste hundreds of dollars a year on a digital middleman that forces you to waste so much time cleaning the mess it made you were better off doing it all from scratch.

This literally only benefits worthless parasites like you, who actively refuses to put in any effort, and will accept mediocre garbage because of it.

>>149503636
You say "good morning saars" but how come it's never evening?

>>149503668
>trust the hecking science, chud
oh we're back to this little song and dance?

>>149503636
Perhaps not everyone who hates aishit is le tumblr boogeyman and distaste for your garbage spans beyond the political straw man that exists in your head?

>>149503550
Yeah, just keep your head in the sand Baljeet. Ignore the warning signs of the impending implosion like you're on an OceanGate sub.

We'll see how that works out for you.

>Ai is going to DESTROY my art career!!!
>Look at average AI gen
>See the most Godawful revolting coomershit goonfuel I've ever seen, rivaled only by the most degenerate of furniggers
What does it say about the average "artist" when that's what's making them shit their pants?

>>149503668
>No competent artist wants to waste hundreds of dollars a year on a digital middleman that forces you to waste so much time cleaning the mess it made you were better off doing it all from scratch.
Good thing I do all my AI for free on local models.
Also you act like companies don't throw hundreds of dollars at bullshit software like company wide Microsoft Office Suits when they could just use Apache Open Office or Libreoffice. Sure, it's effort, but I'm not convinced.
I've also seen those articles, ultimately it comes to the individual's workflow and familairity with their tools. Some people might be slowed down by AI rather than sped up, but isn't the quality of your work just as important to discuss? I understand from a buisness perspective that deliverables on time is very important for sure, but only analyzing efficiency with a subject like art just feels like pieces are missing.

>>149503636
>accusing

>>149502527 (OP)
ai shills want you to remember the artists you hate instead of artists you like

>>149503698
And yet you're the only person in the history of 4chan to have ever posted these faggy little articles
Sounds more like your algorithm knows you're an antiAI tranny and it's feeding you clickbait articles to keep you soothed

>>149502936
>"No. It's the non-artists who are wrong."
Correct. The non-artists are (ironically) the far bigger faggots.

>>149502589
no artist has ever told people to learn to code
it was tech fucks who told coal miners to learn to code
>also defending nfts
you're a fucking joke

>>149503733
Good lord, this phoneposter is an actual retard, he must genuinely be Indian.

not a single ai shill can talk about art they liked and why they liked it
when they bring up a list of stuff they like, they explain it like they asked chatgpt to describe what is good art and why people like it

>>149503705
it doesn't matter if ai is good, if business men think its good enough they will see it as reason to hire less artists and stop calling more

>>149503741
>I FUCKING HATE MY CUSTOMERS
do you listen to yourself?

>>149503705
They're not concerned that the AI will create better content, they're concerned that people hiring artists would rather use AI to cut costs, quality be damned

>>149503717
I'm imagining a large black box designed to look like some scifi movie super computer, but is filled with about 30 indians with laptops crammed into every corner.

>>149502717
this this this

>>149502589
You forgot charging a shitload of money for mid bullshit, taking forever to do it and then having a spazz fit when politely asked for updates.

>>149503775
if you've never seen bad customers its because you've always been one

>>149503790
you've never commissioned anything
many people who commissioned art and have played with ai still commission because they like the artist

>>149503790
If you see that their art is "mid bullshit" why are you paying the asking price in the first place rather than seeking one of thousand different cheaper or better artists? Are you retarded perchance?

>>149503733
>article literally came out a few days ago
>AI shill threads start being spammed yesterday
>so logically this would be one of the first times its posted here

>Indian retard still tries to frame this as a gotcha

Also what the hell is even your argument anymore? You pulled this shit here >>149503518 as well. So the argument is invalid if the image was posted before, but is also invalid if the inage is unique?

It's like arguing with an alien that doesn't even understand how basic conversation works.

>ai shills still look to talk to real people on 4chan
>they don't see the irony in realizing that bots just hit different when it comes to see people getting angry

>>149502527 (OP)
I'm watching artist turn on each other way more often.

These days if someone makes anything that is not a scribble, or has a background people will come out of everywhere to scream that it's an AI pic and try to personal army that artist. The AI detector tools are incredibly prone to declaring a drawing as AI which only makes matters worse.

>>149503636
It's amazing how they'll suck nigger cock without question but treat Indians like /pol/ does.

>>149503696
>he got janny'd for this
LMAO

>>149503756
Xavier: Renegade Angel is my favorite animated show of all time. It's writing is superb. While I love Wonder Showzen I feel like Xavier's writing is a slight less belligerent but just as crass and racey. But the fact it's both crass and simultaneously well written, sophisticated, and borrows from common philosophical and social ideas in a consistantly bastardized way ironically shows both the folly of mankind and the problems of when someone who doesn't really know the road is behind the wheel. It's a cautionary tale of ignorance and how ignorence becomes stupidity, it's a weird world where you both root for Xavier and his demise because his fallacious logic is both grating and entertaining, and the fact he (or the world) is able to magically use that logic and roll with it is a huge component of the ficticious creepiness of the show's absurdity. The jokes are brilliantly written AND there are so many jokes crammed into every sentence yet even if one doesn't land you respect the poetic nature of how it's written, which will be a rarity because the show is so fucking funny.
I haven't even begun to comment on thr animation, but for brevity's sake I will say the writing and animstion are perfect for each other as showing an eerie, shortcut-like inaccuracy to reality until the show designs a spectacle for one to gaze upon.

>>149503808
>>149503820
>I FUCKING HATE MY CUSTOMERS
>NO YOU CAN'T LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES
>DADDY GOVERNMENT STOP THEM
>NOOOOOO I FORGOT ORANGE HITLER IS IN OFFICE
lel

>>149503808
>>149503820
t. Salty Dobson-esque tumblrina

Did someone make fun of you after giving you money? Clearly you're the victim

>>149503790
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/0BIXYlJTsTPnYyUp7aF8Sw/
It's funny how the Indians are seething about images posted only once or twice before, while spamming images over a dozen times already and see no issue with it.

>>149503863
You dropped this
>

>>149503825
It's way WAAAAAYYYY worse on Linkedin.

That place is now filled with AI bros bragging and acting smug about how fucking amazing they are. I have no idea why the hell a job networking site is filled with AI bros posting the latest thing they made, with no job advertised, or even looking to land a job either, but shit that is all over the place every day.

>>149503790
What I losth even more is an artist who backlogs their comms for like 2-3 years and throws a hissy fit when you ask for deadlines and deliverables.

>>149503843
Biden had access to the Epstein files for 4 years and didn't release them.

>>149503868
You seached by hash, not filename
Dishonest bullshit

>>149503829
That thread on /ic/ has been pretty funny. NONE of them are willing to humor the AI jeets posting slop.

>>149502527 (OP)
>all the schizo /pol/tards outing themselves

>>149503854
>chatgpt what are good shows that appeal to 4channers?
>Xavier: Renegade Angel
>chatgpt give me an essay on why people like Xavier: Renegade Angel

but enough joking around. At any point did you realize that people made those shows?

>>149503825
Why are you always so fucking verbose?
You're not some erudite

>>149503863
>i was just an asshole to customer service
>what do you mean they didn't like me!?

>>149503713
Local models means nothing when it's still worthless to anyone actually competent in their field, you deflecting moron. Inherently, this benefits nobody but tech corps and grifters that desperately wants this normalized.

>>149503896
>whittles down the nature of my commentary with likening it to AI writing
It helps noone to be reductive.
>At any point did you realize that people made those shows?
Well I am a huge Vernon Chatman/PFFR fan, not just for Xavier and Wonder Showzen like I mentioned but the Shivering Truth (which if we're going off vidual artistic merit is also a masterpiece) and the Heart She Holler are also super high up on my favorite tv shows.

>>149503909
>Aiiii words!!!!
Lol, hash search this faggot.

>>149503941
>grifters
Oh you're one of those
Nevermind, I didn't realize I was talking to a morbidly obese tranny

>>149503636
Right on the money
>>149503868

>>149503942
would you rather watch a new show made from Vernon Chatman or one made from an ai trained from Vernon Chatman shows?
which would you pay for?

>>149503909
What's the matter? Can't read? You're doing a stellar job beating the Indian allegations, Zahir.

>>149503601
NTA, but counterargument - every new technology involves people going through this sort of learning curve. There are always going to be things a new tool or tech isn't suited to doing, and things that it's very good at, and there are always going to be things that people experienced with previous tools and methods will be reluctant to try. The only way that we ever figure out what a tool is good for and what it's not good for is to try things out. Learning what skills can be delegated to new technology (and, more fundamentally, what skills should) is the most difficult part of any adaptation.

I'm coming at AI from a perspective of someone in the sciences, and I was extremely reluctant to apply AI to anything in my own teaching or research work. But eventually I started experimenting and started learning what things I could and should or can't and shouldn't use it for and it significantly improved my overall workflow.
ex. Is AI good for programming a complicated simulation or instrument interface from scratch? No. Is it good for quickly identifying and formatting standard algorithms to do specific things I've outlined? Yes. Is it good at tracking down modelling and logical errors? No. Is it good at tracking down syntax errors? Yes. These are tedious things that require little creative thought or problem-solving skills, but they're things that typically eat up an enormous amount of time and effort when programming.

I'm not saying this to be a one-to-one parallel with art, but I have to imagine that there are parts of the workflow for art and/or animation that are tedious, monotonous, and/or require very little new creative input on the part of the artist, but are still necessary shit that has to get done. These are the sorts of things I want to see people doing more of with AI. Less "AI, draw a picture of a guy" and more "AI, take this sketch I've drawn of a guy and do the inking for it using these other finished works of mine as examples"

>>149502527 (OP)
They earned that hatred through hard work and effort! It did not come from nowhere, they built it up over years.

I'm not sorry to see them go.

>>149503948
>>149503994
>replies with shota porn
What did zhe mean by this?

>I'm just doing my job
>I was just following orders

I get the feeling all the screeching trannies in this dying board would be singing a different tune if they had figured out how to use AI to make shitty Stonetoss edits

>>149504013
This is the main reason why so many people are joking about them and are just as callous about anyone claiming they are losing their jobs. They spent the last decade being smug assholes going out of their way to push buttons and antagonize the general public as much as they could while propping themselves up as some kind of intellectual elite.

It's no surprise that the people who were routinely prodded by the industry animators who thought of themselves as the cool kids at the cool table are not giving any kind of a shit that the animators are falling on hard times and out of work.

>>149503941
>Local models means nothing when it's still worthless to anyone actually competent in their field
Could you explain why? Is it the wuality you're addressing in local models or are you stating the tool is so worthless to artists that even using it for free will be a deficit to their workflow? And how is that deflecting when what I replied to literally said AI isn't worth the price?
>tech corps and grifters that desperately wants this normalized.
I'll agree with you that major corpos only care about AI the same way the vidya industry cares a about online GaaS titles, because it requires constant support and isn't plug and play, so they can continue to milk you when something more turnkey or "just werks" offline can't. But that being said if I as an individual appreciate and use AI the way I do regardless of if I pay for the model (and I view AI like I view my porn; why the fuck would I pay money to do it?) I have an apathetic or maybe a slight appreciation that these tools I'm using came from them. We can talk shit about big pharma and its faults until the cows come home but I do recognize that I do get regulsr medicine from it. I'll fight tooth and nail for the Right to Repair so companies like Apple or Sony don't dick us from trying to repair the hardware we already bought, but that doesn't mean I lack appreciation of Sony for manufacturing and selling me the item in the first place. I hope the naunce isn't lost or taken advantage of to call me a bootlicker here.

>>149504013
>Do this shit and be smug about it
>Then when their shit gets canned and people laugh at them they go "ACKSHULLY it was the heckin' network that forced us to do that! Uh... we were doing a based and redpilled show for based and redpilled people like us when Zaslav himself came to the studio with a gun and told us to make it lame and gay!"
And the best part is that faggots fall for it

>>149504021
>retard saw two separate replies to him and instantly thought it was the same person
Either we're seeing new depths to your retardation, or this is pretty damn revealing of your shill tactics here. Could be both, really.

>>149503252
Or
OR
Everyone does whatever the fuck they want and you can cry about?

>>149503836
Same thing with latinos, the only race they bend the knee to is nogs
Maybe all of our jannies are in Joshua Ülmer's discord servers or something

>>149504013
I need more info on the context of pic.
>>149504058
The smugness and lack of empathy is what does it for me. Progressivists and liberals are very good at giving a wide net of empathy to people well outside their social bubble yet seemingly are equally as effective at ignoring to empathize with people they perceive to be ontop of life intrinsically or in a good position when bad luck befalls them. The worst part is I myself am stereotyping, yet the twittertard art communities and equivilant vocal groups online taint my perception of these people in a "Chinese Bankrobber Fallacy" way.

>>149503347
>as long as those ideas are...
There is a team of people getting paid 6 figures just to draw Elsa in new dresses.
How about you make a better idea and go generate it? You wo t because you don't want to. So what gets made? The things people want to make.

>>149504098
>scared you out of posting further images
KWAB

>>149504099
Dude, I'm content with not spending money on artists and doing it myself, it's no skin off my back if someone wants to mald about having big important ideas but not wanting to spend their tendie bucks to make their dreams come true

>>149504127
Nobody is doing that and if someone is doing that then he's just another lolcow like Pirate Software or Yandere Dev

>>149504079
I used to love Steven Universe, I was a Becky Sucrose fan hardcore in season 1. I defended the show when they were all simply space rocks that chose to look like women and rejected the "ITS JUST WOKE FEMALE AGENDA" posts. Then I saw those godawful "don't be racist, kids" PSAs with retarded Kendi-esque messages. I wish I never saw them and didn't wake up to reality.

>>149504141
Given how so many people act like you're demanding they cut off their limbs if you don't give a shit about their ai generated creations, feels very much like we got a lot of lolcows

>>149504164
That sounds like a personal anecdote or a tall exaggeration and you're actually speaking of one guy in your life you dislike but never do anything about it

>>149503601
>, since the AI will generate an output that's closer to what they imagine than if they just drew it themselves
How does that make any sense?

>>149504152
I kinda get you
I wanna do unspeakable things to the skinny crazy one
But whenever I look at "the community" or the creators I'm disgusted

>>149504177
Sounds like you're projecting

>>149504206
turn on your monitor

>>149504215
Are you trying to larp as my mom or something, weirdo?

>>149504223
>anti-Ai tranny has mommy issues
yikes

>>149504232
>projecting fears of trannies onto your fictional foes
Gotta love it

>>149504242
do you.............do you just not understand english?

>>149504252
I'm not the one who needs more than a single period to make my point, nor do I presume that everyone who thinks ai spammers and shills are sad fucks are automatically transsexuals just for disagreeing, lol

>>149504186
I miswrote,
The ai is unlikely to generate an output closer to what they vision than so and so.

The pro-AI people remind me of poetry groups, where everyone wants to write poetry but doesn't want to read or listen to any one else's. They generate countless images, but let's be honest, no one wants to see them. Do you think art sites that allow AI actually has anyone browsing them?
"I'm going to look through this gallery of 100 generations of the same prompt"? Yeah right.

Thread slowed down to a crawl of all sudden
I guess a bunch of people got timeouts or outright bans for being ironically racist

>>149504266
>yaaay the furry porn site I use as a friend simulator banned AI because we cried about it
>that means we're winning
Do you listen to yourself?

>>149503601
>when you delegate filling in this part of the image to the Fill tool, you deprive yourself of learning experience that comes from actually filling in the space by hand using the Pencil tool.

>>149504311
Actually I was thinking of DeviantArt. But sure, whatever.

>>149504336
>the furry porn site I use as a friend simulator
Why did you repeat what I said?

>>149504295
Ironically?

>Wizards of the Coast is okay with AI art
>Riot is okay with AI art
>Blizzard is okay with AI art
>literally every videogame art department uses AI
doesn't feel like it's slowing down any time soon, pencilsissies

>>149504364
yes yes, you're the one hecking basado and rojopastillado in a sea of pedophile trannies who voted for Hilary, Biden and Kamala
good for you

>>149504348
Okay. Fine, whatever. Tell me. How many AI galleries do you browse. How long do you spend looking at them? Just an estimate.

It's nothing, because no one ever looks at them after they've been generated. This is without even getting in to the fact that if these generated pictures where drawn no one would actually forgive even half of the errors and flaws present.

>>149504378
It's going to degrade when the only art being produced is AI, and it's only being trained by itself. Soon it'll decay and degrade and people will be trying to downgrade to older models.

>>149503909
>pic
Why not make a TF show with a movie's rating and budget instead?

>>149504295
I am unironically racist.

>>149502558
Usually all. With a dash of false flagging contrarianism for the sake of trolling. This is 4chinz after all

>>149504378
>Companies continue racing to the bottom by penny in pinching every possible area they can

>>149504407
>It's going to degrade
>
Granted you still get Juni Ito or whatever doing a guest appearance every now and then

>>149504416
>capitalism will fall, sisters
>any day now
>maybe in two weeks

>>149504407
>It's going to degrade when the only art being produced is AI, and it's only being trained by itself.
The future of AI is proprietary models trained on carefully cultivated and proprietary data. Disney wants to use AI to animate? They're gonna hire a couple hundred guys to sit in a room churning out tens of thousands of drawings a month and train their own AI that only they have access to. General Motors wants to use AI to design cars? They're gonna hire a team of engineers to submit thousands and thousands of detailed engineering schematics and models of all their vehicles and train their own AI that only they have access to. And so on.

>>149504437
Not even what I said, ai shill

>>149504446
No no no, I totally get what you said
Without le invaluable artisterinos art is gonna degrade into simplistic shapes and beanmouths
Wait.............

>>149504407

This/
AI art has no staying power just initial glance and on to the next one. Nobody is checking out stuff done last year or even 2 months ago. If memory storage wasnt cheap you wouldnt even save them.
It all looks the same to me, like a bunch of different stuff done by the same artist.

>>149502527 (OP)

I don't want to, I'm just glad that the bastard artists who considered themselves a separate caste and laughed at us, the workers, are now unemployed.

And for normal artists, yes, I feel sorry for them.

>>149504407
>>149504466
You retards speak of the disposability of AI when regular digital artists all jump on the same bandwagons, all draw the waifu flavor of the months, all do their derivative take on the latest meme nobody will remember in a month?

Those bastions of originality?

>>149504463
Still didn't get what I said, retard

>>149504266
>They generate countless images, but let's be honest, no one wants to see them
Accurate. I have "ai_generated" filtered on every booru I use. Never do I feel the compulsion to turn it off and see page after page of slightly different iterations of the same waxwork looking image. I'm honestly surprised they don't get banned given the fucking terrabytes of storage their spamming must be taking up.

>>149504493
How many ai pieces still have people talking about them after the time they're put up beyond making fun of them, is the question?

>>149504493

Im not a fan of digital artists either.

I don't like them

>>149504500
>my point was retarded, oh no
>I'll just pretend he misunderstood me

>>149504503
We're talking about actual commercial art here, not the "boorus" you browse because normal websites ban loli and shota

>>149504509
You tell me
Also tell me about all the webcomics this place doesn't talk about anymore because the novelty wore off

>>149504493
Yes that happens, and guess what? No one saves it. But it's not the entire "medium" that is just outright disposed minutes after. And you know that the disposability point is right, which is why you have to dodge it entirely and talk about a single theme within art as a counter to an argument on the entire medium.

>>149504407
>no one would actually forgive even half of the errors and flaws present.
Do you think AI art still has the problem with fingers and extra limbs? It's moved waaaay past that.

>>149504048
>politics

>>149504295
Have you considered actual people have lives outside this shithole? Shocking for shills, I know.

>>149504542
>the entire "medium" that is just outright disposed minutes after
Some people feel that way about superhero comicbooks, or webtoons, or flash animation

>>149504538
>my point was retarded, oh no
>I'll just pretend he misunderstood me
Cause you did, yes. I'm glad you acknowledged that.

>>149504538
>We're talking about actual commercial art here
Why would it be any different?

>>149504551
>/co/mblr having a life
Yeah right, next you're gonna tell me /fit/ actually lifts

>>149504558
No they don't, and you know they don't.

>>149504295
Everyone already said their piece. This is it, the whole site.

>>149504576
You're right, ALOT of people feel that way actually. It's why even with the MCU comicbook sales keep on tanking.

>>149504567
Because that's where the volume of money and work is.
Do you think Sophie the Tranny of Assigned Male fame is worried about being replaced by AI?

>>149504538
>We're talking about actual commercial art here
lol. lmao. AI isn’t being used for shit except generating porn, certainly not by the retards itt.

>>149504621
You really are fucking clueless, are you?
All companies are switching over to prompters for their art and graphics department

>>149504327
The paint bucket tool is universally crap though

>>149504611
Of course poor creations aren't preserved like good creations. No one is arguing that everything that isn't AI generate is saved and preserved. There's likely countless Flashes that were never saved and are gone, but there's loads that were saved, and there's even efforts to make a player for them (Ruffle) so that they can live beyond Adobe.

If AI is so good, why does no one give a shit about it right away? This sentiment will continue in all the "corporate AI creations" as well.

>>149504641
Better hurry up and get that dream job as a $2 an hour proompter before the bubble bursts.

>>149502558
This, chuds are low lifes without any artistic intelligence. Their engagement don't go beyond
>hahahahah pretty colors and wacky cartoons ahhaahhajaja

>>149504677
>If AI is so good, why does no one give a shit about it right away? This sentiment will continue in all the "corporate AI creations" as well.
This, I think the discourse of AI vs artists is kinda artificial in and of itself.

>>149504677
>If AI is so good, why does no one give a shit about it right away?
You said the quiet part out loud, the average normie doesn't give a shit if art is AI or not, if he even bothers to check. At worst he's indifferent about it, at best he downloaded an AI art app and fucked around it for a week then forgot about it.

>>149504701
The issue is that AI and its defenders will do a lot of damage in the mean time.

>>149504719
The average normalfag doesn't care about art or animation period, and will largely avoid it in favor of live action.

>>149504695
I own my own business actually, I can't even draw stick figures
I'll hire an AIpajeet over a tablettranny if he can deliver results faster and cheaper
It's as simple as that

>>149504726
True, but then again, no one gave a shit about artists to begin with and the only relevant bastions are comics/cartoons/anime and goon/prawn. Ironically, gooners, furries and anime-fags are probably more attuned and focused to good art than most, and probably appreciate their hand-crafted art vs AI.

>>149504670
*You have been banned from r/TheDob*

>>149504748
I'm glad you admitted that quality is of zero concern to you, just like it is to all those companies that think they're saving pennies selling slop

>>149504719
Yeah, consumers gonna consume. I'm talking about what happens after that.

>>149504748
Are the transexuals in the room with us now?

I've been posting art on 4chan for years and I have been getting absolutely shit on for the duration. Then in some ai thread I mentioned I was trying to use ai to enhance my art. An ai skeptic shit on my plan and remarked about rhetoric source image I had painted that it was so intricate and full of soul.
Such absolute drivel. This personal experience proved it to me that the ai skeptics are contriving their own outrage.
The ONLY reason people hate the ai art is because it is good. Right up to the second it became publically accessible everyone was trying to copy this same exact rendering style.

>>149504726
Meantime? You think ai image generation will go away?

>>149504744
You do realize "art" is not limited to cartoons and comicbooks, right?

>>149504762
I'm a businessman, my priority is the bottom line and keeping my business operational.
If I saved my company some money and in the process didn't hire a tranny all the better.

>>149504789
What happens after that? The Art Apocalypse?

>>149504795
>The ONLY reason people hate the ai art is because it is good.
So why does no one browse the galleries and delve into back catalogue?

>>149504806
Why not? Remember 3D TVs?

>>149504795
Not even joking here, if you were expecting praise you should have been posting on Deviantart. Nobody is outraged by AI anymore, people just think it is vastly overrated and people's expectations of being some kind of "press button, print money" machine is beyond delusional.

>The ONLY reason people hate the ai art is because it is good
Pfffffffffffahahahahahahaha

>>149504822
>I'm a businessman, my priority is the bottom line and keeping my business operational.
>If I saved my company some money and in the process didn't hire a tranny all the better.
Like I said, if you really don't give a shit about the quality, I guess that's good for you

>>149504719
>at best he downloaded an AI art app and fucked around it for a week then forgot about it
Literally me, say hi to my wife

>>149504847
lol look at her tiny head what the fuck is this?

>>149504795
If you want positive reviews, and helpful critique, 4chan is absolutely not the place to go for it.

>>149504843
I get that you're on welfare, either the literal kind or you still live with your mom, but in the real world people make financial choices that will benefit them and their business.
muh quality is also a sweeping generalization

>>149504823
Because ai coomers gen their own content or share with each other in threads. The gallery concept is obsolete with ai.
>3d tvs
3d tvs started off shit and then stayed that way. Major advancements in ai happen weekly. It's already visibly perfect. You're coping if you deny it. You want to judge the technology because the easiest models and workflows to.implement have a similar rendering style.
Anyone who could produce an image like the ones being generated generated would be making thousands a month on patreon.

>>149504843
Cope. Cope some more. I watched it. Everyone thought it was a cute toy when it looked like shit. Then it turned a corner and suddenly everyone started hating it. It made something really difficult really easy and that's what's offending people.

>>149504884
>but in the real world
People make retarded stupid short-term profit plans in the hopes they won't be the ones left holding the bag, like expecting LLMs to churn out quadrillions of slop-tier pictures in the hopes that clients will be too lazy to point out how ass they look rather than pay some intern minimum wage to make even a mediocre quality one, yes. You do get what you pay for, after all.

>>149504923
T. Adults.

>>149504048
god could you imagine

>>149504951
You're clearly the one coping about the mean bully wullies here, loser

>>149504955
>>149504955
>pay some intern minimum wage to make even a mediocre quality one
I defy you to make a 'mediocre quality" image right now. You'll fail. It'll look like shit. It wont be a C- picture. It won't be an F. It'll be an unusable waste of your time, which is why you won't even try.
The biggest boon with ai is it just does what you want without making excuses.

>>149504863
She's korean and she has terrible posture

>>149504970
Bullying who? The ai? Are you hurting the aids feelings? Do you imagine im white knight ingredients the ai?
The jury is in, industry is using ai. The decision is already made.

>>149504955
Are you the intern in this analogy?
Are you just bitter you lost some gigs to prompters?

>>149504930
>The gallery concept is obsolete with ai.
If it's completely disposable, then its irrelevant. It will be remembered as such, if its remembered at all.

really who gives a fuck, so long as people keep enjoying the process of drawing and animating there'll still be non-ai art and animation

me personally I dont give a fuck about ai because it does nothing to stop me from drawing lol

>>149504823
That's a really bad analogy, streaming would be better with everyone and their mom making their own streaming service with cable holding on for dear life to remain relevant

>>149505025
even if you keep drawing everyone might as well think you have stopped anyway because nobody is looking at your shit

>>149505053
>That's a really bad analogy
Only because we know it fails.

>>149505061
I thought this whole thing was about muh quality and muh purity of art

>>149505061
honestly as of lately I notice that more and more of my audience is other artists, I dont really mind that because its nice that more people seem to catch some of the subtler things that I do in my art and that nobody fucking noticed before

>>149505092
Irrevelant when it dies unknown as if it never even existed

>>149504795
While I agree with your conclusion I also think it's important to point out that you are on 4chan. Oldfags on 4chan were gruff to each other like old boomers who talk shit, with the intent the gruff exposure will desensitize and foster an atmosphere of tougher commeradere. But we are generations down the line, the lesson has been lost on people who inherited the hostility without the well meaning intent behind it. Any creative space (game deving on v ir /agdg, posting art here or /ic/, etc) is a horrible place for general vibe checking your work because you may get genuine critisism but you'll also get a lot of pessimistic people who nitpick rather than actually desire to give you constructive critisism. I think being met with rude responses is guranteed here regardless of your quality.

>>149505092
Irrevelant when you die unknown as if you never even were the one drew it

>>149504987
Cope, lol

>>149504964
I actually thought this was human made at first and I clapped thinking this was deep. Lmao

>>149505106
So it is about money and prompters stealing your lunch

>>149505000
The industry is wasting money, yes, I get it

>>149504987
I mean, AI art has a very distinctive look that some people just dont like. If you like it then good, but its its own thing rather than just an improvement of art or something.

>>149505009
Are you the guy who lost his shit when told his doodles weren't up to snuff by your third grade art teacher?

>>149505155
You're like a jilted ex, except you were never together in the same place lmao

>>149505154
People's ideas and beliefs change in accordance to their material conditions? woah I thought it was all ideas and great men

>>149504120
>So what gets made? The things people want to make.
So we're not missing out on any 'great ideas that wouldn't have gotten made'. Turns out most people don't have them and the ones that do put the work in.

>>149505174
Strange attempt at projecting, anon

>>149504013
good artists also hate ai

>>149504719
I always said that normies are unironically the biggest threat to art

>>149504013
I think you just hate liberal millenials, its just a crazy overlap that a lot of them are artists. I'm saying that as someone who also hates those fucks btw, most lame chunk of people of all time.

>>149504748
you won't do shit

>>149505173
No, in my school art class meant either drawing or music so I played the drums

>>149503136
all that shit is irrevelant when you as a person get forgotten, especially when you use your art as a means of self expression - no point to if the SELF part gets erased since expressing the self is the whole point

>>149505180
>NOOOOOOOOOOO MY FREE MONEY NOOOOOOOOO THIS IS TRUMP'S FAULT SOMEHOW
ebin

>>149505154
Not even money man, rather recognition and validation

>>149505261
Wanna get famous?
Become a fucking streamer or something, a vtuber if you're too ugly to show up on camera

>>149505229
>EAB
But what did she mean by that...?

>>149505250
Nobody said that, I'm not even someone who makes money off of art, but its just normal that people believe whatever is coherent in accordance to their material conditions. This applies to just about everyone, whether artist or prompter. My point is that treating such a natural thing as hypocrisy is stupid and betrays a lack of understanding of how people and society in general works.

>>149502558
Fpbp

>>149505261
? you can still easily get famous as an artist man, I'm a twitter artist myself (wont say who though) and dont monetize my stuff because I do it as a hobby and only for the fame, its very much doable

>>149502558
fpbp
all who throw shade art artists not having real job get the rope

>>149505283
It's AI obviously
I got it from /aco/

>>149505279
why would I do that I am not good in front of a camera, and I have no interest in being a streamer. I like dtrawing, I want validation and recognition as an artist. Why don't you ask ckatgpt if it's a good idea to become a streamer when you have no interest in being a streamer

>>149505320
Have you ever heard of Picarto?

>>149503482
Trump is a joke, and was elected to destroy the status quo by revealing the corruption by his incompetence alone. The real joke are the people who genuinely believe he was one of THEM.

>>149502527 (OP)
>What is there to gain?
MORE SLOP!!!!

>>149504493
most artists are disposable but you still have artists who matter to you if you care about art
someone who is unpleased with modern art should take it upon themselves to make their own art

ai will never be that one in a million artists that you like because it is INHERITENTLY disposable and ai aims to kill that desire to create. Every AI shill wants to demoralize everyone because they view creators as their enemy

>>149505344
not being good in front of a camera includes those type of services too

>>149505382
Were you this much of a doomposter when tablets became the norm?

>>149505384
Then deviant art, Chris Chan got his big break there

Honestly I'm kind of happy AI art exists, its just the videogame graphics boom all over again.

The first generations that were exposed to realistic graphics fucking jizzed to it, but the ones that grew up seeing high tier graphics right away kind of didnt give a shit and started to have stronger preferrences for unique arstyles. With AI it'll be the same, everyone will be amazed at the ability to do stuff with high technical quality easily, and then it'll get old and people will prefer unique looking shit even if more crude.

>>149505420
explain how tablets are anything similar to ai without mentioning that both require a computer

>>149505025
people do their best work when they can do it full time
ai companies isn't to try to free people from work they don't want to do, it seems to be to demoralize anyone who dreamed of not being a slave

>>149505437
It reduces workload

¿¿149505420??
I warn you now.
You read it in braille.
And you start seeing things that make you search for a loving god.
Context is also the era.
And the insults have become wearisome.

>>149505459
how?

>>149505468
Because if you fuck up with a pencil the whole thing is fucked, with a tablet you press a button twice and problem solved

>>149505212
They ruined both Harley Davidson and Applebees! They deserve the hate!

>>149505483
never heard of an eraser?

>>149505489
Try erasing when you're doing inking or coloring

>>149505495
never heard of white out?

>>149505499
Yeah, the tablet can do that
No getting dirty

>>149505486
I'm sorry but millenials are giga lame. Those fucks codified all redditor oh my science memes, pushed for the wave of idpol radlibbery that dominated the early to mid 2010s and listened to stomp clap hey. I'm a zoomer btw, and gen alpha so far already mogs millenials so bad its unreal.

>>149505509
and how is that similar to ai?

>>149502717
4 - People using it for DIY fap material.

>>149505522
ai companies didn't spend BILLIONS to make porn

>>149505486
I hear ya,
I grew up in a blue tens in Santa Monica park because my parents couldn't break their crippling addiction to avocado toast ans never could afford a home. The nights were cold.

>>149505514
>run prompt again

Totally organic thread. Is it coordinated shilling or someone seething so hard his last 500+ post thread of recycled screencaps and talking points wasn't enough to prevent his mental breakdown?

>>149505542
Yes

>>149505420
>Chris Chan
I think most people here would rather be recognized for being good at what they do rather than for being freaks.

>>149505532
Heh. Didn't they?

>>149504011
You're asking way too much from both sides of this.

>>149505569
Are you fucking kidding me? The average 4channer who years for fame, instead of being content being anonymous, would sell his soul and his mother for a crumb of clout.

Fun-fact:
A good number of famous vtubers started out as attentionwhores in this place

>>149505539
so you don't see the difference in needing to correct a mistake and something doing everything for you?

>>149502527 (OP)
They're not actual fans of cartoons, animation, or storytelling. They're shitposters, and in some cases, pajeets. Literal street shitters. They are not conscious, intelligent beings. They are subhuman creatures that either want to rile up other people for fun, or they believe that AI will be the ultimate get rich quick scheme that will give them a shortcut to fame and fortune. However, because they are utterly and clinically retarded, they fail to understand that mass proliferation of AI still benefits artists, writers, and people with a functioning brain, more than it would benefit streetshitters.

Consider two people: One who likes stories and reads many of them, studying them, making their own, and thinking about the ways you can make a story fun and engaging. And one who can't read, but sees that storytellers can make lots of money, though he doesn't understand why and wouldn't be able to identify a good story if you handed it to him directly. Between these two people, which do you think will have an easier time creating good stories with the bleeding edge Infinite Story Generator Machine?

Furthermore, both will have to compete with everyone else in the world who has access to the Infinite Story Generator Machine. Some people will even have exclusive access to even more advanced machines and higher quality tools. Somehow, the second person still thinks he alone will benefit the most from this technology, and that billions of other people who will also have access to it will come rushing to him, and no one else, to pay him for the crap he generates in total ignorance of why people even like stories in the first place.

>>149505235
Thank you for responding. I hope this doesn't sound too rhetorical but what is self? Need it be the name and face I agknowladge defines me today, can it be anything related to the work or impact I leave? I see it as I'd rather make an impact with my genuine work and be misremembered rather than remembered well for mediocre works, but at that point I wonder if it's moot to our subject since the point of the memory of me is my recognition, not my faceless impact. Or is that the heart of our debate? If it aounds like I'm moving the goalposts I'm not intending to. Granted "fullfilment" and "impact" are pretty subjective terms, so if I get that out of being an impact without the proper recognition I may appreciate that more compared to someone else... or theoretically appreciate it since I'd be dead.

>>149506107
AI proponents boil down to four groups:

>JEETS
The only group that seems to be under the delusion that they can actually make money off of AI. They are determined to set up slop farms and channels designed to spam algorithm-ticking content that earn them a few dollars.

>TROLLS
The assholes pushing all the "artists deserve to suffer" crap. They're mostly just toxic assholes stirring the pot and causing drama because they think it's funny.

>GOONERS
The porn and dopamine addicts who don't give a shit about any of the actual debates or discussions involving AI, they just want to churn out titties and fap.

>CHILLBROS
Anons who just think it's neat and want to see people do cool shit with it; the kinds of anons who were regulars in the early /g/ threads where people were putting effort into understanding how models weigh and interpret prompts and how to manipulate training content and now want to see what creatives can do to push the tech even further beyond.

A tale as old as time.

>>149506107
How can you say the don't like storytelling if they use it to tell a story like >>149503130 ?
Comment on the quality, but effort was put into a cohesive story with a buildup, payoff, and even subversion at the end.
I am NOT calling you pretentious, but the general attitude you expressed I have heard before, and I find that pretentious. Part of the deal about art is to attack the method or medium used always comes off obtuse. I can assemble sticks I foraged off the ground, sticks I did not make nor edit, into a shape or collage and that's considered art. It might not have been hard, pretty, and even if the artist doesn't consider it sophisticated it's still art. He might not be able to shape the length & curvature of them but he used it to craft his vision. He might have even rejected a few sticks that didn't fit, akin to AI artists who gen again or change the prompt to match accordingly. The tool's acceptance socially seem to matter more than actual artistic merit.
>And one who can't read, but sees that storytellers can make lots of money...
Firstly, you are conflating being a consumer to having tastes and understanding theory. Go to /v/ and tell me the people who've played more games fundimentally understands core design principles intrinsically. Second, I find it funny you argue the one using the story machine would be after money over the joy of creation for the sake of when the biggest arguments against AI from vocal artists are how it hurts their commisions, positions in companies, and denies them opprotunities they feel more entitled to because of their training and background.
>both will have to compete with everyone else in the world who has access to the Infinite Story Generator Machine.
Oh, just like how easy game engines and indie dev projects going up on Steam and itch have to compete with AAA and other creators who also use EZ engines? That sounds cool to me.

>>149506440
You being serious right now? Because this is some extremely high effort b8 if you aren't.

>>14950630>>149506301
What's notable is that the first 3 can barely use AI to save their lives and will settle for the lowest quality slop they can rapidly churn out because they think anything that can be made without any real effort or creativity is inherently super amazing and that everyone should be impressed, even though there's already countless other people producing stuff with the same tools and getting better results.

>>149506498
Dead serious. Nobody's discrediting the skill it takes an artist drawing, painting, sculpting. Well maybe the people >>149506532's refering to, there are a lot of people out there who don't appreciate or understand the artistic process let alone the time it takes to get good at those arts. Shit dude, people take newspaper and magazine clippings of other peoples art and collage them into a single piece and call that art. How much more direct of a comparison do you need?

>>149502527 (OP)
I just think it’s way harder to respect an artist now since most of them online act like total bitter faggots

>>149506763
good artists also hate ai

>>149505197
>>149506771
ebin bot

>>149506771
Skill in artistry and how much of a bitch they are are 2 independent factors.

>>149506792
>can't refute

>>149506763
Honestly, most of the ai proponents act like bitter fags as well, they just also hate artists and whine that you're a luddite if you say their output sucks too

>>149506792
>>149506812
Not a bot, just some retard trying to bruteforce a new buzzword

>>149506842
tell me how i'm wrong?

>>149506855
Oh god, you do this bullshit in /pol/ too?

>>149506916
are they wrong?

I simply enjoy the artfags butthurt

>>149506941
don't talk about yourself in the third person, you got enough mental illness of your plate

>>149506969
you don't think multiple people can't believe that good artists exist?
you know you're on a board for art right?

>>149502527 (OP)
we stopped having "work on your art" threads

>>149507016
>multiple people
Quit it, nobody is buying it
And no this dying shithole isn't for art

>>149507047
>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>>149507069
Exactly

Capeshit comics nobody buys that aren't even good enough to be an IP farm for the movies anymore, and cartoons for children

>>149507128
this is neither a comic or cartoon tourist

>>149507181
>xir says as zhe posts Spock's friend

>>149507200
wanna explain how stupid you sound?

>>149507181
>the pony board
>the incel board
>and /co/mblr
Damn what a chad lmao

>>149507251
>he doesn't have a folder of reaction images
sorry if multiple people have kirk in their folder

>>149507181
>>149507251
BTFO

>>149507293
wanna explain what you think you found out tourist?

>>149507181
>>149507251
>yeah I'm a totally hecking cool collected chad like spock's friend
>is a fucking permavirginal brony
OH NONONO ONONONONO ONONONONO ONONONO ONONONONONO ONONONO ONONOONONOONO O OONO ONONOONONOO ONONO NO
NO

>>149507181
>>149507251
early runner for kwab of the year 2025

>>149507293
>>149507312
>>149507343
all me

>>149507181
>>149507251
And that's why you don't overdo it with reaction images, kids
Because people can find out you're a brony and a loser
At least it wasn't /trash/, now that would have been real embarrassing

>>149507432
It’s not me but if anon thinks otherwise there’s not much to convince him otherwise. Didn’t know such an obscure character like Kirk was used as reaction image fodder

>>149507181
>>149507251
how embarrassing

Because hopefully then AI will be good enough to make the animations I want to use them with, or they can take my scribbles and make art with them.

>>149507625
Nah, this is /co/mblr
If they really thought he was a minor they would be trying to groom him on discord

At the point I'm kind happy where this whole AI debate seems to be settling at.
AI bros seem content to spend the rest of their lives slowly drowning in slop that specifically caters to them and Anti-AI artists seem to have either adapted or have already left the industry.
Instead of 'the death of artists' it's looking more like what happened to woodworkers during the industrial revolution where all of the simplest and most repetitive work has been replaced by machine's and the worker's who remain are doing shit that's too niche or too difficult for machine's to replicate.
So I get to support and enjoy artists who are actually making good work and AI-gooner's get to do the equivalent of sitting in 8 million different kinds of IKEA furniture. Everybody wins.

>>149502589
>>149503790
The 'wealthy, selfish artists' meme always cracks me up because artists notoriously undercharge. You're basically seething at a McDonald's employees because 'they think they're so much better than me'.
I can't think of a more efficient way to out yourself as a jobless brokie.

>>149507715
now only if they could stay in their containment threads i could ignore them
i don't even know why they feel the need to even post ai
just generate it for yourself and show it to your ai bot friends

>>149507805
>heh if you don't pay my exorbitant fees for my deviantart-tier shit you're a poorfag
Bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off

>>149507832
You do realize over half of the 84 images posted in this thread were made with AI, right?

>>149507867
whats your point?

>>149507887
My point is your cry to the jannies to ban all AI images falls on deaf ears because even people like you who are fixated on this subject have trouble telling the real thing apart from AI

>>149507913
posting ai isn't bannable
although it isn't, it should be understood that it's a courtesy to keep it in ai threads and out of other threads. i suppose this thread is bit of an exception because its a discussion on ai but when we have threads about appreciating a character there should be no ai, everyone always calls it out
people who view ai as something to consume understand that much

if it gets to a point where its just obnoxious for everyone you end up getting the containment BOARDS

>>149502589
100%

>>149508052
And yet some other faggot earlier wanted them ALL BANNED FOREVER like in the furry porn site he frequents

>>149508069
>but what about someone else!

>>149502936
Why do you think the people hating slop are always artists? I just don't want my favorite form of entertainment to be engulfed by an endless torrent of low-effort slop.
>inb4 it already is
It can get so much worse and you know it.

>>149508083
And yet you people are convinced anyone who has ever fucked around to make a funny with the ghibli artstyle is indian
>sweeping generalizations for me, not for thee

"Artists" deserve to be erased by AI.
Get a real job. "But muh-muh-muh commissions" Not anymore, loser. Now you're going to have to work for a living like everyone else.
Trust me, I'm weeping for you over here.

>>149508115
>its okay for me to be a hypocrite because everyone else is!
and you do realize this is an anonymous message board right?

>>149508138
>anonymous
Not so much when the retards here repost the same image dozens of times and end up self-reporting

>>149502558
Fpbp 4cuck is full of losers who hate fun

>>149508153
okay so everyone you're talking to is a single person?
that should give you less reason to feel like its okay to be a hypocrite

>>149502725
Genuinely kill yourself

>>149504493
For me, it's bombardment

>>149508165
could be, who knows?
jannies did removed the IP counter for whatever mysterious reason they haven't deigned to explain to the rest of us

>>149508223
if you hate people (or i guess a single person) arguing against you over ai then maybe you should stop making these threads
>but i'm not the one making these threads!
you see how stupid this sounds?

>>149503705
The problem is it's at the "good enough" stage where while it still looks like complete ass to anyone but the most brainless of NPCs it can get shit right juuuuuust enough for companies to seriously start considering gutting entire swaths of the job market.

>>149508255
Learn to prompt, bitch
Or isn't that what you said to all those blue collar people who lost their jobs a while back?

>>149507867
>GOOD LUCK SURVIVING WITHOUT MY $100 YOU SHITTY ARTISTS
So either you think shitty artists actually survive off of their art (they don't, they usually have to burger jockey on the side) or you're admitting that before AI you were buying art that you thought was shitty because you couldn't afford anything better.

>>149508264
just because you keep repeating this as something that happened doesn't mean it ever did
the "learn to code" people were in relation to coal miners by big tech people

>>149508244
I didn't, I just posted this epik maymay >>149502589 and you retards ran with it because you consider AI art taking off to be an existential threat for whatever reason

This is fucking /co/, this place hasn't produced a decent drawfag in at least 5 year

>>149504011
I'm pretty much a layman when it comes to art but inking seems like too important a step of the process to try and automate. I don't think AI should really be used in individual picture drawing at all since there's not really a place for it. Animation on the other hand where quantity is the name of the game with the sheer number of frames I can see a place for it since we already outsource a lot of in-betweens to third world sweatshops, that's an area where AI can actually benefit.

>>149508278
>YOUR FUCKING MONEY ISN'T ENOUGH, I HAVE TO KILL MYSELF IN THE GREASE FARMS TO AFFORD MY FUNKO POPS
Yes, shitting on your customers, that strategy will surely pay off and also
>cries about AI being easy soulless slop
>posts a fucking wojak
lamo

>>149508283
Oh yeah the big evil tech bros, back then you people worshiped Elon Musk as Rick Sanchez made flesh
Funny how that works
Or maybe you love him again since Trump kicked him to the curb

>>149508223
>jannies did removed the IP counter for whatever mysterious reason they haven't deigned to explain to the rest of us
The traffic has been on freefall for years and that's not counting the hack, which made this shithole lose a third of its activity for good (a quarter approx. in the case of this board) or it was a quarter in general, a third on /co/, didn't paid attention to the graphs

>>149504378
>some of the biggest blights on the video game and tabletop industry that have actively been making shit worse for the average consumer are all racing to adopt AI that means it's a good thing
lol
lmao even

>>149508329
what are you even talking about?

aifags just love playing the victim at every possible instance, it's unreal

>>149508370
Oh NOW you pipe up?
You were just fine with them turning every beloved character into a black tranny but AI art is when you draw the line?

You people are a fucking joke

>>149505459
A tablet does not outright *replace* functionality, instead it provides a more efficient digital facsimile of what you can do through traditional mediums. A person can directly translate their traditional art knowledge to the digital plane with little hassle. Genslop automates the entire process.

>>149508437
So it reduces A LOT of the workload is what you're saying?

>>149506532
>What's notable is that the first 3 can barely use AI to save their lives and will settle for the lowest quality slop they can rapidly churn out
That’s true of any tool or skill though. 3/4 people who can pick up Flash or Blender or Python or Mathematica will never do anything resembling what those tools are fully capable of and will accept the bare minimum of lazy shit they can churn out. But the other 25% will do pretty spectacular stuff and push those tools to their limits.

>>149508264
>learn to prompt bitch
AI has been shown to pretty much only be considered knowledgeable to people outside of the fields it's being used for. For anyone who actually knows what they're talking about it's about as useful as an intern who knows how to google faster than anyone else in the office but is also a known liar.
Honestly though I'm kind of excited to see what happens with all of these companies that are trying to replace most of their workforce with AI- best case scenario there's only a small drop in quality with a huge increase in productivity and a drop in labor costs. Worst case (best case for me) scenario they get to find out why experts are considered experts first hand.

>>149502717
I'm number 3
Artists have become to uppity and policed most hobbies to ruin

>>149508394
>Elon Musk
>X(formerly Twitter)
>Grok

Look it up, you people don't even know your enemies

>>149508449
maybe if you have aphantasia

>>149504795
Hello Shadiversity

>>149508469
what is this imaginary war you think is happening
this is just a thread on /co/

>>149508449
In the same way that some factory produced mush reduces the workload of cooking maybe

>>149508420
My guy if you think racists are the only one's who hate those companies you really need to get outside more. Blizzard got actively booed on their own stage at their own con a few years ago and it wasn't because there was a black person on stage lol

>>149508468
there are rightwing artists

>>149508264
Nigger I don't draw shit, I just despise something I enjoy in my free time turning into low quality slop. Also I have always been against outsourcing, offshoring, and senseless automation when it's only used to drive wages down.

>>149508486
Oh yeah I'm sure I imagined all those posts in this very thread calling everything and everyone pajeet
If you're gonna be a bitch at least own up to it

>>149508506
You're not fucking Gordon Ramsey and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you're quite fond of fast food yourself

>>149508525
The bald guy with the snarky comment, you mean?
That game sold like gangbusters and that very same bald guy ended up playing it.

>>149502589
the definition of a strawman. you retards associate one thing with another, jump from conclusion to conclusion and lump every "other" together in one group. if you really believe the shit you posted you might actually be retarded

>>149508329
>>cries about AI being easy soulless slop
>>posts a fucking wojak

Do you really not get why someone would prefer a wojak over AI slop? If this is bait it's fucking working

>>149508420
Not at all what I said, and you think these companies are now good for embracing AIslop despite pushing black trannies for years even though they've shown no indication of changing that?

>>149508437
>Genslop automates the entire process
And does a generally meh job of it. Anyone serious about AI acknowledges that it’s much better suited for replacing small, tedious steps in a workflow, not the entire fucking lot.

Treating AI as a total replacement is like treating a power screwdriver as an all-purpose tool. There are things they’re good at and things they suck at. Anyone arguing that all tools should be replaced with power screwdrivers or decreeing that any discussion of using power screwdrivers is “anti-building” is retarded.

>>149508571
>>149508571
>Oh yeah I'm sure I imagined all those posts in this very thread calling everything and everyone pajeet
literally yes
this is the only post that makes any reference to whatever you're talking about

>>149503012
>here is another post by that guy
>both posts of the guy are correct statements
btfo?

>>149508623
messed up
>>149504748

>>149508552
Don't care. Seen a lot of artist act so smug about men's hobbies being erased. Its super satisfying seeing them get replaced. I do not pity people who hate my existence and try so hard to make my life miserable

>>149508579
>I'm not like other AI-haters
>says every AI-hater
ebin

>>149508593
I get I drove you to the point of defending the artistic merit of fucking wojaks lamo

>>149503053
i was more or less agreeing but you lost me completely on the last paragraph

>>149508614
to a craftsmen there is no part of the process that isn't worth looking into

>>149508645
have you even liked anything in your life?

>>149508571
I don't need to be an experienced chef to not want to consume literal pig trough slop. I don't need to be an artist to not want to see genslop everywhere. And no, I try to limit fast food consumption as much as possible because it's extremely unhealthy, the food quality has generally taken a nosedive, and it's too expensive these days which defeats the entire purpose of it.

>>149508639
Actually
>>149503636

>>149508571
>That game sold like gangbusters and that very same bald guy ended up playing it.

My point was that it's cute that you think only people scared of black people REALLY hate Blizzard.
Just keep making AI rage bait- maybe one day I'll wise up and stop sleeping with black women.

>>149504048
Would
>>149504823
>Remember 3D TVs
At least those have a niche since most Blu-ray players still play 3D Discs and 3D Blu-rays still have a useful unique appeal.

>>149508697
read it again

>>149505483
I don’t think you have ever drawn before.

>>149508614
There's the problem though, most AIslop isn't a tool in a traditional slop. Using your analogy it's more like a poorly made, mass-produced prefab structure. A tool assists the creator in their job, it doesn't fully automate a step of the process to this degree.

>>149508607
And? They're still gonna fire your asses after you people convinced yourselves they were part of le resistances for changing their logo on twitter during gay month

>>149508690
Oh I see, you're one of those retards who goes to Las Vegas and gets fleeced out of his money but he convinces himself it was delicious because you paid a small fortune for a so-so steak.
I get you, I get you

>this shitshow is still here
Ok, one final post. This thread doesn't deserve any but frankly the sooner it's at bump limit and dead the better.

>>149508645
See this post, /co/? It's inorganic as fuck on a fucking COMICS AND CARTOONS board that is literally about enjoying the work of ARTISTS who make comics and cartoons. If you hate artists, YOU HATE COMICS AND CARTOONS so nobody expressing these kinds of opinions deserves a response on this board. IT IS BAIT. I know this place is autistic but Jesus Christ.

>>149508768
Why do you strut around the place like you or your retarded opinions mean anything?
What? You hang out with one of the jannies on Discord so now you think you're special?

>>149508766
>They're still gonna fire your
>your
Goddamn it's basically like talking to a skitzo where you imagine everyone you speak to as being part of the same group you imagined.

>>149508768
>If you hate artists, YOU HATE COMICS AND CARTOONS
So if I hate Skottie Young for what he did to I Hate Fairyland that means I hate comics and cartoons?
That makes no sense

>>149508766
So you think because I said fast food slop is too expensive that means I will overpay for food in a restaurant? What sort of insane logic are you operating under?

>>149506358
>Artist resorts to violence.
Typical. No wonder they fell in love with green Italian man.

>>149508733
Actually now that you mention it, that furry artist friend of mine I mentioned hours ago fucking despises nu-Blizzard as he calls it. He's tried to bait the WoW general in /vg/ for a week to address the problems of the game and the company at large but they're not biting.

>>149508824
I'm operating under the logic of
>food analogy
I'm not taking you seriously

>>149508805
you're not talking about Skottie Young, you're treating artists as a monolith
you're on a board for cartoons and comics, you should be here because there's something you like about cartoons and comics even if you're unhappy with the state of modern stuff you should still be capable of remembering things you do like and even find the rare modern thing you like

>>149508805
I think hating an individual artist's creative decisions is quite a bit different from hating the very concept of artists.

>>149508834
>a drawing is violence

>>149508849
I try but then you people barge in to the thread and call the stuff I like outdated and problematic, then you start spamming Steven Universe and Helluva Boss porn

And somehow I'm the one who ends up getting banned

>>149508866
A DRAWING OF WHAT

>>149503843
>>149503877
americans are fucking wild man. your entire elite was on that childfucker island and both sides scream about the other side doing it in changing intervalls, depending on who is in charge. and you two colossal retards sing right along.
meanwhile no one ever talks about how they irreparably fucked up the middle east over the past 50 years for some questionable gain over the bylats or some fucking oil.
can you speed up your left vs right shitshow please? accelarate. the faster this rotten empire dies the better.

>>149508882
>things that never happened

>>149508886
>drawn violence is the same as real life violence
okay Shillery/Jack Thompson

>>149508894
>pussy who cowardly hates america and conveniently forgets to say where he's from
>either because it's too irrelevant or because people will clown him for it

>>149508848
>you mentioned food so I'm going to make a bunch of assumptions about you because I'm borderline schizophrenic!
lol

>>149508923
You just have to make better analogies, tubby
People will take you more seriously in the future

>>149508894
>your entire elite
It's funny you think that only Americans were on Child Fucker Island

>>149508901
No wait you're right, it wasn't Steven Universe, it was "Princess Marco"
The thread was full of homosexual pedophiles all talking about how much they love being homosexual pedophiles and how they would love to homosexually rape little boys

Somehow I was the only one getting banned for pointing out having such discussions is against the site rule, not to mention extremely fucking illegal

Tranny janny took the side of the homosexual pedophiles obviously

>>149508936
The only food I brought up was pig slop which this shit is and you went all off on an autistic tangent about fast food. I think you're doing a little too much projection there buddy.

>>149508999
dude what the hell are you even talking about

>>149508999
Are you new here? What the fuck are you talking about.

>>149509004
>slop
Oh yeah, you people ripped that off from the chuds too
They use that term to describe shitty woke modern media

>>149509007
>>149509024
>our jannies are hecking angels, they're totally competent and not corrupt in the slightest
Seems like I struck a nerve

>>149508999
wont somebody think of the innocent drawings!

>>149508915
i hate your rancid nation openly irl, cunt.
there is also no point in telling you where i´m from since at best you uneducated sperg will give me some surface level tabloid spam of shit you read on 4chan and accepted as fact.
you throwing around "irrelevant" around as an insult perfectly encapsulates whats wrong with your worldview. i geniuenly hope you die sad and alone, anon.

>>149509049
>homosexual pedophile cope 101
Predictable, you should have mentioned /pol/ too

>>149509044
sounds like you're the only one here talking about jannies

>>149509065
>I'm afraid to get bullied for my flag
ftfy

>>149509026
Here's a thought, I don't want to consume artist made globohomo slop or machine made slop. Difference he is that I can actually find artists that aren't compromised while AIslop will always be slop.

>>149509044
You're allowed to be lustful over cartoon characters dipshit.

>>149509065
>cunt
Wasn't one of your royal fags on that island?

>>149509089
>only sith deal in absolutes
>deals in absolutes
Kathleen Kennedy would be very disappointed in you

>>149509097
>deflects with a girl
I see the game you're playing, groomer

>>149509118
>n-no you like the globohomo!
Reading is not your strong suit, is it?

>>149509176
I'm more of a fucking kind of guy
I'm doing your mom as I type this

>>149509205
Damn someone is getting desperate for (You)s at this point

>>149509269
Quite franky I've been fucking around for the past couple of hours while I wait to clock out of my job
And you're an easy target

>>149509318
>psssh I'm so above it all I was only pretending to be retarded for the past few hours because I was bored
lol

>>149509387
And you engaged with me, so who's the real retard here?

>>149509426
NTA but anyone who actually admits to pretending to be retarded for (You)s is still a retard.

>>149509490
>NTA
>but actually TA
lel

>>149509426
You are lmao pretending to be retarded is still retarded

>>149509506
>everyone i talk to is the same person!

>>149509513
It's okay, dude
I wasted your time, it has happened to us all

Currently, I can't imagine how AI can be used design wise, let alone in something as complex as animation because you can't control it. For example, part of my job involves designing graphics for certain clients depending on their needs. 100% of the time, the client is going to say, "can you move this over there" or "I like that thing but its too high or too dark." If you used AI to generate the design, you couldn't customize it to the client's requests. I can never make AI generate the same image twice just with choice modifications.

>he's still going at it
Not even worth a (You) anymore

I have woke artist fatigue

>>149509318
>>149509426
>>149509530
Imagine bragging about wasting someone's time for multiple hours, you wasted your own time buddy.

>>149502527 (OP)
animation is fake and gay
Also fuck off gloomy

>>149508449
There is no workload, if you consider putting in a prompt "work".

>>149507047
love that pic

>>149502527 (OP)
Tribalism. Instead of enacting it through violence, people choose social means.

>>149502558
fpbp