>>17873747
>imagine if Hitler told the soviets to invade but then they themselves didnt, what wouldve happened?
A better question is, what would've happned if Germany and Poland made a deal to attack the USSR together.
The bongs and frogs wouldn't have a casus beli for declaring war, and the Axis would've had much more resources in the Eastern Front.
Then you add Japan, which would most likely join the fight, seeing how the odds are much more favourable.

And you get a 90% chance the Soviet Union would've been destroyed.

If only the Poles and Germs employed a little bit of pragmatism and forward thinking in their calculations...

>>17796371
>In retrospect, where did it go wrong for the Germans?
When they decided to pursue the Danzig issue, instead of schifting towards an alliance with Poland against the USSR.

In that scenario:
>the eastern front starts much closer to Moscow
>Poland helps militarly, instead of being an enemy
>the UK doesn't have a Casus Belli to declare war onto Germany
>Japan sticks to the comintern pact, because Ribbentrop-Molotov isn't signed
>Germany, Poland and Japan gang up on the Soviets
>the USSR loses
>further developments are anyone's guess, but Germany's situation is definitely MUCH better

In other words - real history is what you get when your leader is a passionate nationalist, instead of a calculating, pragmatic politician.