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7/13/2025, 11:00:39 AM
>>96077975
>Doesn't erase the differences
There are no differences in essence, merely different word play.
Voodoo, Hoodoo, Mexican folk magic and folk Catholicism have historic magical practices using Psalms, Saints, etc... You had peasants writing grimoires on how to summon angels(Theurgia). You had bishops writing grimoires on how to summon demons(Goeteia), and those (Agrippa) who saw no difference. The ‘thaumaturge’, was simultaneously a man of miraculous feats, or magic; there was no true differentiation.
Christianity in general has plenty of magic in the Bible, its arguable its an occult text itself given the symbolism. Urim and Thurrim (divination), Psalms (incantations), prophecies/visions (self explanatory)...even the more modern charismatic denominations emphasize prayer (intention/incantation) and use Christian dressing as a means of group/energy work. Ever hear the 'Christianese' "speak life" and "intentional xyz"? Not by accident...even the prosperity gospel, megachurch pastors, snake handlers, preachers who use sermons to stir emotions, Sacred Name movement...all of them are forms of magic just as the high church rituals of the Catholic and Orthodox traditions in different forms.
Also historically many Christian mystics have used astrology and angelology (angel work). Saints and saint candles are magic.
All religions involve magic in some form including those who claim to be entirely against it...aligning to a religious law or deity is sympathetic magic...with the Bible its very Saturnian (OT) and much of the traditional modern day Christian celebrations are Solar based (NT).
Natural philosophy (physics back then) was seen as ‘magica naturalis’, or natural magic, including artifice. Knowledge is knowledge (wizard even comes from wise). Just showing a woman a piece of cheese was seen as a spell.
Math was also seen as magic and as a form of divination for many thousands of years,
>Doesn't erase the differences
There are no differences in essence, merely different word play.
Voodoo, Hoodoo, Mexican folk magic and folk Catholicism have historic magical practices using Psalms, Saints, etc... You had peasants writing grimoires on how to summon angels(Theurgia). You had bishops writing grimoires on how to summon demons(Goeteia), and those (Agrippa) who saw no difference. The ‘thaumaturge’, was simultaneously a man of miraculous feats, or magic; there was no true differentiation.
Christianity in general has plenty of magic in the Bible, its arguable its an occult text itself given the symbolism. Urim and Thurrim (divination), Psalms (incantations), prophecies/visions (self explanatory)...even the more modern charismatic denominations emphasize prayer (intention/incantation) and use Christian dressing as a means of group/energy work. Ever hear the 'Christianese' "speak life" and "intentional xyz"? Not by accident...even the prosperity gospel, megachurch pastors, snake handlers, preachers who use sermons to stir emotions, Sacred Name movement...all of them are forms of magic just as the high church rituals of the Catholic and Orthodox traditions in different forms.
Also historically many Christian mystics have used astrology and angelology (angel work). Saints and saint candles are magic.
All religions involve magic in some form including those who claim to be entirely against it...aligning to a religious law or deity is sympathetic magic...with the Bible its very Saturnian (OT) and much of the traditional modern day Christian celebrations are Solar based (NT).
Natural philosophy (physics back then) was seen as ‘magica naturalis’, or natural magic, including artifice. Knowledge is knowledge (wizard even comes from wise). Just showing a woman a piece of cheese was seen as a spell.
Math was also seen as magic and as a form of divination for many thousands of years,
6/26/2025, 4:00:08 PM
>>713705794
cheesed to beat you
cheesed to beat you
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