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6/19/2025, 6:57:25 PM
>>63861627
>your anti-soviet bias is showing
>>63861718
>Reality has a certain anti-soviet bias
>>63862991
>the military was castrated since early soviet times and modern russia just double down on this
Anons like to argue that these ways of doing things owe to Soviet times and communism. (Part of this is political because this is /k/ which doesn't like communism). But I'm not convinced of that, as a lot of accounts of Russia in the 19th century describe a similar system. But it's also true of the Soviet system. I think the communists recreated a rather traditionally Russian way of doing things once they stabilized the communist regime. Or Stalin did. In order to stabilize it and "run" it, they fell back on traditional patterns. Putin's system has done something similar to that, when there was an attempt to do something different in the 1990s and it didn't work. It's like "we don't do that kind of thing around here."
>>63862991
>Modern russia is a KGB mafia state all things considered. The KGB (FSB) is the elite, the "new aristocracy" and shit.
There's a book called "The New Class" in the 1950s, written by a Yugoslav partisan leader and a Marxist who became P.M. of communist Yugoslavia, but turned against it and went to prison. He also met Stalin on numerous occasions and wrote a book about his conversations with him. "The New Class" was about the same stuff. It was about how the party elite and industrial managers (who were party members) became a new ruling class. But the ideology was that it was a classless society yet here's this new ruling class and explaining how that operated. It's like more complex Orwell, who had some insight but was never a high-ranking member of the communist elite. It's pretty interesting, you can find free .pdfs of it with a quick search.
>your anti-soviet bias is showing
>>63861718
>Reality has a certain anti-soviet bias
>>63862991
>the military was castrated since early soviet times and modern russia just double down on this
Anons like to argue that these ways of doing things owe to Soviet times and communism. (Part of this is political because this is /k/ which doesn't like communism). But I'm not convinced of that, as a lot of accounts of Russia in the 19th century describe a similar system. But it's also true of the Soviet system. I think the communists recreated a rather traditionally Russian way of doing things once they stabilized the communist regime. Or Stalin did. In order to stabilize it and "run" it, they fell back on traditional patterns. Putin's system has done something similar to that, when there was an attempt to do something different in the 1990s and it didn't work. It's like "we don't do that kind of thing around here."
>>63862991
>Modern russia is a KGB mafia state all things considered. The KGB (FSB) is the elite, the "new aristocracy" and shit.
There's a book called "The New Class" in the 1950s, written by a Yugoslav partisan leader and a Marxist who became P.M. of communist Yugoslavia, but turned against it and went to prison. He also met Stalin on numerous occasions and wrote a book about his conversations with him. "The New Class" was about the same stuff. It was about how the party elite and industrial managers (who were party members) became a new ruling class. But the ideology was that it was a classless society yet here's this new ruling class and explaining how that operated. It's like more complex Orwell, who had some insight but was never a high-ranking member of the communist elite. It's pretty interesting, you can find free .pdfs of it with a quick search.
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