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6/23/2025, 5:04:52 AM
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>(noble phantasm that rewrites causality to always pierce the heart just doesnt work
Even Archer states later that it's still a spear, if you're outside of its range it can't hit you, the causality thing doesn't matter. You see him jump away just as Lancer is about to use it on him and he brags about that. In Saber's fight vs Lancer she does exactly that. Her luck triggered her sixth sense and she jumped back, getting struck but not in the heart.
You also complain about "no resolution" but that is factually incorrect on every conceivable level. I have to ask you: what the hell wasn't resolved to you?
The fake vs. real discourse? Culminated in Saber (real) defeating Assassin (fake), and Shirou (fake) beating Gilgamesh (true), with the ultimate take-away being "real and fake matters less than the passion behind it".
The Emiya's dreams (kiritsugu and shirou) ends up in a definitive answer of "it's impossible, but still worth working for". Like you don't just refuse to save someone just because they'll die anyway some day.
Saber found her parallel in Shirou, and his aggressive march to the future without regrets even if it ends up in a known failure state. To bang it off, in the future, we see evidence that Shirou will go further than Archer and likely live longer.
>mage can use true magic
No one uses true magic in F/SN until the Heaven's Feel route when Ilya uses Heaven's Feel to re-plant Shirou's soul in a flower.
>shirou loses to an objectively more powerful and more trained version of himself that has all his training and abilities plus centuries of experience and counter-force powers)
If you mean Archer yes, Archer gives up. He could have killed Shirou 10 times over but the fight wasn't about physical prowess. He wanted Shirou to give in to despair and say "you're right, this is pointless". Instead it was Archer who wasreminded of the beauty of his flawed ideal.
>(noble phantasm that rewrites causality to always pierce the heart just doesnt work
Even Archer states later that it's still a spear, if you're outside of its range it can't hit you, the causality thing doesn't matter. You see him jump away just as Lancer is about to use it on him and he brags about that. In Saber's fight vs Lancer she does exactly that. Her luck triggered her sixth sense and she jumped back, getting struck but not in the heart.
You also complain about "no resolution" but that is factually incorrect on every conceivable level. I have to ask you: what the hell wasn't resolved to you?
The fake vs. real discourse? Culminated in Saber (real) defeating Assassin (fake), and Shirou (fake) beating Gilgamesh (true), with the ultimate take-away being "real and fake matters less than the passion behind it".
The Emiya's dreams (kiritsugu and shirou) ends up in a definitive answer of "it's impossible, but still worth working for". Like you don't just refuse to save someone just because they'll die anyway some day.
Saber found her parallel in Shirou, and his aggressive march to the future without regrets even if it ends up in a known failure state. To bang it off, in the future, we see evidence that Shirou will go further than Archer and likely live longer.
>mage can use true magic
No one uses true magic in F/SN until the Heaven's Feel route when Ilya uses Heaven's Feel to re-plant Shirou's soul in a flower.
>shirou loses to an objectively more powerful and more trained version of himself that has all his training and abilities plus centuries of experience and counter-force powers)
If you mean Archer yes, Archer gives up. He could have killed Shirou 10 times over but the fight wasn't about physical prowess. He wanted Shirou to give in to despair and say "you're right, this is pointless". Instead it was Archer who wasreminded of the beauty of his flawed ideal.
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