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7/3/2025, 2:46:04 AM
>>24510148
>This means that Fukuyama is the one that actually has the last laugh of course
Fukuyama's arguments could be use to justify a theocratic communist dictatorship given how bland and generic they are.
>There are virtually no non-liberals in the West at all
There are probably more intellectuals adhering to some niche ideologies than intellectuals adhering to generic liberalism
>>24510580
>1. The whole appeal of liberalism is that it convinces people that the reason its societies are successful is because they are liberal, and everyone else could be too if they were.
That's the goal of any cosmopolitan ideology. Besides, culturally, liberalism means gay butt sex to non-liberal countries.
>2. Can you even disprove this idea?
The USSR was the 2nd most powerful state for almost a century, China and most successful asian states were/are authoritarian states with regulated capitalism/socialism, Africa's best states were socialist, Bhutan showcases that material & spiritual comfort can surpass a desire for recognition etc. I could also list all the issues within liberalism but it's clear that liberalism' success is more due to its place in history as coined by Euros when they were powerful than some 'end of history' movement.
>>24511999
Ironically Mamdani's rise goes against the traditional liberalism mindset imo. His economic policies aren't exactly "liberal" and afaik his woke issues like gender and religion weren't at the center of his speech.
I think he and Trump represent two sides of the same coin. A desillusion with liberalism where one side wants to go back on the social issues (gender, immigration etc) but wants to keep the liberal economy and another one on economic issues (free market, individual property rights, neoliberalism & consumption) but wants to keep "social" rights.
>>24513881
you and all the other christians shitting up the thread are b8; esthetics shouldn't be the reason you convert.
>This means that Fukuyama is the one that actually has the last laugh of course
Fukuyama's arguments could be use to justify a theocratic communist dictatorship given how bland and generic they are.
>There are virtually no non-liberals in the West at all
There are probably more intellectuals adhering to some niche ideologies than intellectuals adhering to generic liberalism
>>24510580
>1. The whole appeal of liberalism is that it convinces people that the reason its societies are successful is because they are liberal, and everyone else could be too if they were.
That's the goal of any cosmopolitan ideology. Besides, culturally, liberalism means gay butt sex to non-liberal countries.
>2. Can you even disprove this idea?
The USSR was the 2nd most powerful state for almost a century, China and most successful asian states were/are authoritarian states with regulated capitalism/socialism, Africa's best states were socialist, Bhutan showcases that material & spiritual comfort can surpass a desire for recognition etc. I could also list all the issues within liberalism but it's clear that liberalism' success is more due to its place in history as coined by Euros when they were powerful than some 'end of history' movement.
>>24511999
Ironically Mamdani's rise goes against the traditional liberalism mindset imo. His economic policies aren't exactly "liberal" and afaik his woke issues like gender and religion weren't at the center of his speech.
I think he and Trump represent two sides of the same coin. A desillusion with liberalism where one side wants to go back on the social issues (gender, immigration etc) but wants to keep the liberal economy and another one on economic issues (free market, individual property rights, neoliberalism & consumption) but wants to keep "social" rights.
>>24513881
you and all the other christians shitting up the thread are b8; esthetics shouldn't be the reason you convert.
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