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7/12/2025, 11:45:00 PM
Goddamnit do I hate it when Americans start talking about History.
About the prima nocta: there isn't evidence that it WAS actually a right anywhere in Europe. The same name is found to refer to a different thing: the Church forbid fucking for one to three days after marriage unless you bought the corresponding forgiveness. That's as close as it gets.
The later forbidding of the practice came together with the forbidding of a bunch of other supposed practices, like the droit de prelassement or however the fuck it was called, which was supposed to be the right of the lord to cut a peasant open to warm up his feet. This shit just didn't happen, it was literally medieval urban legends, shitposting, etc. The same people who bought all the QAnon bullshit a few years back and were rambling about satanic rituals and politicians drinking baby blood in hidden complexes under Pizza Huts also existed back then, and they had the same inclination to make up and believe the most insane bullshit.
A good proof that the prima nocta wasn't an actual thing is that it's referenced in multiple literary works from Medieval times, and always as something barbaric that the nobility of another country did.
On the other hand: we all know how people are when they have power over others. It'd be insanely naive to jump from "it wasn't an actual law" to "it was completely made up". Rape and sexual harassment exist, rich and powerful people love to throw their weight around. It very likely did happen here and there, and there's some testimonies from here and there talking about it happening regularly. Generally more rural and underdeveloped areas in Eastern Europe. From there to calling it a common thing all over Europe there's a huge stretch.
Finally, even in the worst parts of the absolutism there were nobles hanging from trees because they wanted an extra coin for crossing a bridge. Imagine if they wanted to fuck everyone's wives. It's absurd.
Now shut up and get back to shitposting properly
About the prima nocta: there isn't evidence that it WAS actually a right anywhere in Europe. The same name is found to refer to a different thing: the Church forbid fucking for one to three days after marriage unless you bought the corresponding forgiveness. That's as close as it gets.
The later forbidding of the practice came together with the forbidding of a bunch of other supposed practices, like the droit de prelassement or however the fuck it was called, which was supposed to be the right of the lord to cut a peasant open to warm up his feet. This shit just didn't happen, it was literally medieval urban legends, shitposting, etc. The same people who bought all the QAnon bullshit a few years back and were rambling about satanic rituals and politicians drinking baby blood in hidden complexes under Pizza Huts also existed back then, and they had the same inclination to make up and believe the most insane bullshit.
A good proof that the prima nocta wasn't an actual thing is that it's referenced in multiple literary works from Medieval times, and always as something barbaric that the nobility of another country did.
On the other hand: we all know how people are when they have power over others. It'd be insanely naive to jump from "it wasn't an actual law" to "it was completely made up". Rape and sexual harassment exist, rich and powerful people love to throw their weight around. It very likely did happen here and there, and there's some testimonies from here and there talking about it happening regularly. Generally more rural and underdeveloped areas in Eastern Europe. From there to calling it a common thing all over Europe there's a huge stretch.
Finally, even in the worst parts of the absolutism there were nobles hanging from trees because they wanted an extra coin for crossing a bridge. Imagine if they wanted to fuck everyone's wives. It's absurd.
Now shut up and get back to shitposting properly
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