The Wheel has turned once again
Watch yourselves edition
Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autistโs wet dream of a war game.
>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y
>Steamgrouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya
>Multiplayer guide>Blitzserver (game hosting service)https://blitzserver.net
(Dom 6)
https://beta.blitzserver.net/games
>Llamaserver:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582
>Documentationhttps://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html
>Tools>Mod inspectorhttps://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/
>Wikihttps://illwiki.com/
>Pretender calculatorhttps://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/
https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)
>Debug modhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618
>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)https://instacalc.com/53495
>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/
>How do I change the fonts?Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)
>Fan arthttps://thronebooru.booru.org
>Sloopโs Comfy Balance Modhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing
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>>529085159
>>530579768Does this image also apply to sailors?
>>530580261Look at late age and see if Ys is there
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
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New LA game
Is anyone else having an issue where adjacent indies aren't giving scouting reports?
>>530576924 (OP)struggling with my first couple dom 6 games. Out of practice from dom 5.
Alright, how do I beat a omni-resist 20 def spirit sight human cav? He already figured out my Maws Of The Earth strat and is hiding his faggy sacreds in the back behind shitty chaff.
>>530601423>0 (zero) deathIt is the best path after all.....
>>530600065Rigor Mortis. Horde of Skeletons. Earthquake. Gifts + Horde of Skeletons.
>>530597586Who's this artist?
>>530600065>>530601645Mass crossbows/fire arrows if he doesn't have air shield. Terracotta soldier spam.
Or just refuse to fight him and raid all of his shit until he gets mad and goes AI.
>>530585832based vanilla king.
whats your plan for the custom map?
>>530602478https://x.com/kowa_luna
>>530600065>>530602663Also murdering winter him at range or assassinate his commanders with disease fiends or seeking arrows or something.
>>530602736It's gonna depend on if there's water nations or not.
If there is I'm making a custom donut. With water in the middle.
If not I'm gonna make something weird.
how many of you have actually read the manual
>>530605420I use it like a dictionary, as in I only look something up if I don't understand
>>530605420Reading is for nerds.
>>530605420what happened to that tutorial site that we had for dom 5? Did it ever get updated? That site was useful.
>>530605420At least itโs not as bad as Shadow Empireโs manual.
>>530600065fatigue em out. curse of stones and skelly spam. Hit em with earth meld and wail on them while their stuck.
>>530619146check it, most of the stuff here still applies.
https://illwiki.com/dom5/start
After a recent game getting won due to pure discord dm fuckery, I personally think only anon games are good now
anons, what's (((You)))r go-to tendie?
>>530627058Since oracle is no longer S, I am lost and frightened
>>530627058its always so hard to regret taking a monolith
Monolith is love
cept today, my feet are troddin on by this friend of mine
five foot six, and learner's permit
I got to get him in the ground with his full mcdavid kit
>apparently accidentally moved my centerpiece communion master away from the big fight before it happened
fuck
got and played conquest of elysium 5, liked the concept, but the slow as FUCK pace of the game literally makes me not want to play it again. is this a problem for dominions? and also, which dominions should i get?
>>5306571486 because generally each new game just builds on the old ones with more content
Dominions is primarily multiplayer so there's no pacing problem
Blitzmin you are so cool and strong and handsome for hosting your lizard server
>>530666108But also your server is being really weird and slowly hosting turns. Like 30 minutes for a turn.
>>530657148Get the mod that gives you stationary defenders in your home province so you don't have to spend the first 3 turns defending it from deer and ants.
Get the game moving much faster, and also stops all the ai dying in the first 6 turns
>>530657148COE5 is literally unplayable without the mod that doubles all income, and the mod that gives loot after every battle for good measure. You can easily find both on the steam workshop.
>>530670291>doubling all income in a game where the normal difficulty AI gets like 300% of what you dosounds fucking horrifying
What is the best nation for EA
I don't think this build has aged well
>>530689801why not?
seems fine
>>530691789I think it is more valuable to dump that Magic Scale for more Dominion. Only 4 Skinshifters per turn when I have no Marveni Sacred Summon Spam equivalent seems bad
I need to transfer gems to a commander after a battle, but a mercenary has become the designated default go-between and he won't give up any gems I give him
Is this a known problem???? wtf Illwinter what do I do
>>530693961Don't give shit to mercs
>>530693750I think that's alright? You add regeneration in 2+ years and he'll be pretty scary. Shame he rolled Astral
>>530605420I did, and it explains every mechanic twice, it's really badly written in that regard.
>>530694890the merc is preventing all gem transfers in the province I need to kill that stupid monkey
Okay I'm an idiot. What the hell is a vast province?
>>530643265>I THOUGHT>I THOUGHT YOU WERE STRONGER
>>530704881Well, that wasn't the proper doomstack, but I'm not sure if it'll make it over before you win the game. Guess we'll find out!
How do I deal with these nidbath vayggers
>>530709305withering weapons
Is the daughter of typhon the most busted sacred?
>>530710559If you are in a position to research it with Sauro or Pythium you are already going to win. High conjuration isnt a priority for them over other paths. Theyll usually stop at 5 just to get Howl.
It's just a fun gimmick summon, it wont swing games.
Lords of Civilization are stronger sacreds anyway, since they are commanders with magic paths and item slots.
Thinking about pretenders
>>530670291I play with quick start, it's aight
>>530710559Massive jobber because of no magical damage or access to magical damage.
>>530733069Yeah its a victory lap summon
>>530731920awake expander or bust
>>530738263expand and awake bust(in)er
>have sudden realization of huge mistake in scripting
>steam fully goes down so can't fix it
If the turn rolls I'm going to murder someone
>>530738954Just open the game from the .exe you dingus
>>530738954Nice try but Iโm not falling for this
>don't deploy diplomancy
>be honest
>get 3v1'd
>>530743315Meanwhile, me:
>successfully diplomance all my neighbors into fighting each other after cowing one agitator into submission>get to strengthen myself with no cost for nearly 20 turns>eat shit anyway because I'm ass at scripting lategame fightsfeelsbadman
which mod was it that had all the extra pretenders in dom 5? Dom expanded? Sloops? Is there a dom 6 equivelent?
Want to bully goblins.. not sure if i should..
Does anyone want to play Sparks?
>>530752007The Pretenders Enhanced submod of Dominions Enhanced, probably. Some of the other large scale mods like Hellenika, Spark of Divinity, and and SCBM add/spread a bunch of pretenders around as well.
Good or dogshit for Mario?
>>530755857LA mario forgot to mention
>>530755857what are you going for?
how are you trying to use your bless / tendie / scales?
>>530755857the stength boost doesn't do much for your sacred halberders, they already do 23 damage, though armor is stronger in LA.
Far caster is expensive, LA relies more on demons than magic critters so not sure why arcane command, and strong blood is mostly for diseases, which isn't normally a problem unless your supply blocked or have some sort of plague things going on.
>>530757232>>530757606From what I understand from what little I've played of LA marignon their bless troops fucking suck ass because crossbows exist so the idea was to rush a blood economy and to get flaming arrows ASAP while getting up some castles in key locations
>>530757232>>530757606your scales are pretty decent, tho. Magic scales lower your Magic Resistance which might make you vulnerable to some things, but i'm guessing the research is probably worth it. (I'd rather have luck i think)
>>530758549well if you're trying to rush blood then magic scales are probably good. what specifically are you using blood for? If you had some good crosspaths you could maybe get some better summons.
>>530759315Every goetic master can spam demons so I would do that and try to pick off mages
>>530755857Any reason not to go for blood surge here? It's actually not bad on the crossbows, and gives you a pretty legitimate ranged threat.
>>530762510The unit has to kill first for surge to activate
>>530755857nta but what do you guys think about something like this to give the crossbow guys a shot?
>>530762951If someone has fire res or can use a fire res spell your blesses are now pure shit
>>530762951i think i see what you're going for, but i think if you took dormant you could get the big boy blood spells on your tendie and up his blood path and get rid of drain.
what are some of the breakpoints i should be researching for?
>>530767151depends on the nation and magic access
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
LA game starts on the 18th
>>530767151Level 6 has a lot of really strong spells. Level 5 too for evocation
>>530768530>no sloopsYUCKY!!!!!! Go back to discord
>>530763178do you think someone would do that tho?
>>530775817yes and you can cast battlefield wide flaming arrows anyway. I would do fireshield bless not flaming weapons desu, at least that passively chaff clears
i asked but ill do it again
pyrene is the sensible choice for twilight/rain+storm/darkness spam right?
>>530776673LA pyrene is too new to know. MA pyrene is more about wrathful skies why debuff when you can rapebuff
>>530776673What do you think you're getting out of Rain in this scenario?
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Fucking how
>>530779891>how did my 50 pieces of cockass lose to 65 pieces of cockassthe militia tanked the jav fire and initial melee while the light infantry and archers lit up your 8 prot retards
>>530779891archers ate your ass that's how
>>530784183for real, my guys lost in melee to them
>>530784253well berytos is considered one of the weakest early game nations in the game for a reason. You probably need an expander to stay alive or even an indie barbarian horde could kill you
>>530777281i see, will try on the next game, rapebuff is funny word
>>530778260lowering precision to not run pyrene range and fucking over fliers
>Cast Wrath of God
>4 hate messages
>1 of them going AI
ayaya, sorry folx
>>530768530I will join your game
>>530805875>Order 2>GoHIt smells like bitch in here
>>530779891>attacking will less troops than defendersanon...
MAde_in_sweden, did we really go 10 turns without a stall? Where are my /domg/veterans?
>>530820684this is what happens when vanilla kings come together to battle it out
>>530689801>imprisoned with regen blessit was always shit
BLITZMIIIIIIIIIIIN PLEASE RESET THE POTATOOOO
I DON'T WANNA STAAAAAAAALE
Does anyone forge mount stuff
>>530851825>make your thug thuggierSure, why not? Morgen Princesses are a good contender.
>>530851825if you're playing elves sure
>>530851825I don't play dishonest cavalry nations. Fuck you.
>>530854837>he doesn't summon troll moose riders and then gift of reason themplebe
A tip for pythium players: you have a lot more tools in your arsenal than just spamming hydras
>>530857937When I won a game with pyth, what I mostly did was spam skeletons, foul vapors, rigor mortis and relief. Just works.
new game new game new game????
>>530856994>>530857937I think he's talking about using mages to point buff your hydras.
>>530576924 (OP)It is I, Yomi! THE EVER LIVING!! MWAHAHAHAHAA
>>530805875so is it true what they say about licking a jungle toad?
>>530876679Yomi balls
T. Fomoria
>>530877636mothaaa-fuuuuckkkeeeer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en0Icxb3s9I
>>530576924 (OP)you remember when /k/ used to have that meme of a marine rubbing his face with with oil as oil geysers gushed in the background?
>>530881678Which priest spells are the best ones? Astral?
>>530882570priest spells are priest spells, they use holy. sometimes something is both a priest and has magic paths, but not usually.
>>530882570or do you mean scared wind, pull from the grave, ect? i dunno they are all pretty crappy i don't use them most of the time.
>>530882570not technically just a priest spell since it's e1h1 like
>>530883181 mentions;
Ulm's Iron Darts/Blizzard are absolute bullshit, to the point once they research it you're pretty much stuck in a fort until you can cast Arrow Fend. Hope you have an A4 mage to cast it, because otherwise you're shit out of luck.
Just five of their priests casting it creates over 100 magical, AP + Pierce projectiles. Every. Single. Turn.
>>530882570Do you mean the banishes?
>>530883971>Adolf Smith>Not Adolf Smithlerone job
>>530883971i miss the halycon days of spurdo..
>>530883620I forgot about crosspath spells using holy.
How do you manage to get blown out by iron blizzard? Do you not have shields or armor?
Around Elves, Watch Yourselves
Whose worse, EA Yomi or EA Machaka?
I think Yomi, god Yomi is bad. They don't even get recruitable Oni Demons any more.
>>530884939Yomi is the best EA nation in the game
>>530885132you show me how to win with Yomi, then.
>>530884939lol, they don't even get summonable oni anymore. and it costs 700 gold for a Dai Oni now.
>>530885360>go regeneration bless>cast earth power and nat prot buff and soul vortex>add in an army wipe spell or two once you get research>kill everything>if they somehow manage to counter you build items that counter their counter to you and win again>if they somehow counter that counter their counter with different items and 50/50 what build youre doing so they cant deal with both>build temples if you want freespawnyou will now win 80% of your games by building one unit all game
>>530885708Ah yes, counter the counters, goti t
>>530887473Just have every magic path unlocked alongside every item ready to go at any moment, bro.
>>530885708>once you get the researchSo never?
Ilwinter just hates weebs.
>We trained Yomi wrong, as a joke.
>>530888716People that wank euro history always seethe at japan for some reason.
>>530889402that's because they pretend to be cooler than europe
total japoid rape
>>530889550>implying they need to pretendI don't recall any knights disemboweling themselves in a display of martial discipline.
>>530887473If you cant win with a multiple life super combatant that can't die to anything then you are the worst domingos player of all time
>>530889843I find suicide to be distasteful femininity, obedience and submissiveness to circumstances at it's core. No matter what clothes you put on it. It is the equivalent of going AI. Heroic sacrifice, on the other hand...
>"Roland blew his eyes out of his skull, so hard that he penetrated the enemy's too."
>>530888716Wdym, all of them do have severe flaws but aren't really bottom tier
>>530897170can't you find something better to do with your time than be a contrarian?
>>530897480I consider bottom tier something like Pelagia or Rlyeh so eh
>>530897480dude, 90% of people think yomi is S tier
shinuyama is at worst B tier
jomon is the only D tier
>>530899763What's wrong with Jomon if they get water access
>>530910035yeah IF they get it, there isnt always a lot of water either even if they're nearby and can claim it before they get buttpounded
So since mages have been nerfed into the ground with the price and fort build time increases as well as the nerfs to spells themselves in dom6, does the side with better troops (sacreds) pretty much win all the time now?
>>530916148lmao no
early game the side that can spam more evos wins
midgame the side that can spam more buffs wins
the side that got its battlefield killer up first wins
>>530916148No but nations with actual cav punch high above their weight now in expansion
>>530916148Fuck no you can turn an entire army into paste with a good wizard setup.
Atlantis I have a lot more fire gems where that came from just give up
>>530939507I'll have you suck on my gills fuckboy
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
LA game get in here faggots
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>>530941530You can see which mods are on if you look.
>>530940159ill think of a build and then ill join
Does LA Caelum have the worst sacred troops?
>>530943314No way.
In a vacuum Flagellants and Klhysts are way worse (but recruit anywhere).
In context I think MA Pyths Battle Vestals are worse
>>530943756Is buffing flying on the Earthbound and sending them to the backline a good idea or a terrible one?
>>530944129I'm not a Caelum guy but that probably isn't the most efficient way to use them.
I think you want them lined up in front of your mages in battle firing their crossbows which gives your mages much more time to buff them. They are probably good for fatigue plays too.
Sort of like Shinus Dai Bakemono longbows
I want to go back to the days of Dom 3/4 xbows...
is it worth delaying infinte pig works for awaken tattoos?
i guess yes, because you actually need to have functional troops right?
why
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Anon why are there no soldiers in this army
>>530963394Why were the Assassins scripted to join the battle
What benefit could this possibly have
>>530963394They all died fighting off the monkey's siege two turns before and I was all out of gold
>>530963580The plan was to try to catch some mages while he was sieging. Then I found out that you can't assassinate a sieging army.
It's pretty much the last battle of the game, so I thought everyone should go in
>>530964136Malikahs can take out morgen princesses your assassins stood zero chance
>>530964136>Then I found out that you can't assassinate a sieging army.Huh? Don't you just need to sneak from outside?
>>530889843prob cause suicide is a sin and fucks shit up with the church, but of course not having a whole culture around killing yourself probably helps too. I don't think you could get buried in consecrated ground if it was known you killed yourself
>>530965462Ah yes suicide is a sin but serfdom, prima nocta, and the general debauched depravity that the european upper classes have always been famed for are not. Knights weren't even real warriors, they held play fights like jousting competitions and almost never saw direct combat unless they killed some emaciated 5 foot tall peasant in an honorable duel. But the fairy tale of King Arthur says knights are pretty cool guys so I guess there's that.
>>530965902PRIMA NOCTAAAAAAAAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anij6FuY_W0
>>530965902Prima Nocta was made up for the movie Braveheart anon...
What's the PD threshold for bad events in 6 again? I seem to recall they made it higher than in 5
>>5309688676 is the minimum, 11 is recommended
>>530965902Anon, stuff like chivalry, jousting competitions, tournaments were invented because otherwise those knights just went to some rival knight's homestead and started wrecking shit, kidnapping, the works. They are a thug unit, in /domg/ terms.
>Prima NoctaFalse stuff to make yourself sound better, serfdom was a thing in Japan as well.
>Meanwhile: tsujigiri (่พปๆฌใ), which literally means "crossroads killing." It involved samurai testing the sharpness of a newly forged swordโor the effectiveness of a new fighting techniqueโby attacking a random passerby, often a defenseless peasant or merchant, typically at night.Holy shit so honorobuu...
>>530966282That's a eurocuck lie. There's literal spanish legal documentation that explicitly describes the practice. Eurocucks are a bunch of cuckrape babies. Cowardice is bred right into their blood.
>>530971360Literally says in your google translate gargle that it's an abuse and not a right.
>The only medieval legal reference often cited is Article 9 of the 1486 Sentencia Arbitral de Guadalupe by Ferdinand II of Aragon. It forbids lords from sleeping with peasant bridesโbut crucially, it lists this as an abuse, not a recognized right.>Scottish historian Hector Boece claimed in 1527 that the practice existed in Scotland until abolished by King Malcolm III. But Boeceโs account is widely considered legendary or fabricated, and no corroborating legal texts exist.>No statutes, charters, or feudal codes from medieval Europe explicitly grant this right. Scholars have searched extensively and come up empty-handed.
I made fun of this line of the article in /domg/ and then the wiki article on prima nocta became suddenly became active for the first time in months and somebody removed it.
>>530972482The fact that it took a decree to declare it illegal and immoral to do so means it was an accepted practice in the absence of such a decree. The Sentencia Arbitral de Guadelupe was written to end a civil war that they were getting their asses kicked in by the way. The spanish colonies went into an uprising to stop european nobility from robbing and raping them.
>>530971360>>530966282Neither of these are true. It was a thing but it was pretty much just a way for lords to steal wedding dowries from peasants.
>>530973503Ah yes the King of fucking Spain wrote a word for word "stop raping the fucking peasants" law when he really meant it to be a "stop stealing dowries" law.
I've played as Ulm, Rus, and now Ermor; what are some other good beginner factions for learning the game?
>>530965902Now this is some prime weeb cope.
Which demon lord is the best one?
>>530974223for no reason other than just how silly he looks
>>530974158t. prima nocta baby
>>530891195>"Roland blew his eyes out of his skull, so hard that he penetrated the enemy's too."Is this from dark tower? i never finished that series, got stuck on wolves of calla
>>530974884talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face
>>530974884I said that european nobles were pieces of shit, not that samurai were nice guys. Samurai were very, very scary people.
>>530975061>Roland, the hero of the Song and nephew of Charlemagne. Wields the sword Durandal. Leads the rear guard of the French forces; bursts his temples by blowing his olifant-horn, wounds from which he eventually dies facing the enemy's land.He basically toots so hard his head asploded
>>530973501>The fact that it took a decree to declare it illegal and immoral to do so means it was an accepted practice in the absence of such a decreeNo it doesn't
does # of magic paths affect how well my pretender can reasearch? also do y'all try to take advantage of this ?
>>530981019So the king made it illegal to do something that's already illegal? Are you calling the king retarded?
>>530981883Rainbow pretenders usually get like 60+ research but if you're purely getting a pretender for research it's better to get one that inspires instead.
>>530981883more magic levels means more research, dunno the ratio
normally a pretenders research amount isn't that important though, maybe if you have a nation that has some power spike at a 3rd level of research like abyssia getting fireball on like turn 6 (awake sage with 3s across the board is ~65 research iirc) then there may be some use but... i'd rather that pretender be site searching if awake rather than researching
>>530982559Just because it wasn't explicitly stated to be illegal in a document doesn't mean it was an accepted practice, dumbass.
>>530974884>japs knife-rape your noses so badly you base your whole culture around slicing off pieces of your nose, eyelids and jawpoor gooks, they've even made their own Chin Mound now
>We sentence, arbitrate, and declare that seniors cannot [...] sleep with her on the first night that the peasant takes a woman or as a sign of seniority on the wedding night when the woman is to be laid in bed.
Tell me, eurofriends, what part of this law says that prima nocta is both already illegal and mythological?
>>530982876So the king in explicit wording made it illegal to do something that nobody actually did anyway? Are you calling the king retarded?
>>530983278I'm calling you retarded for saying it was an "accepted practice" despite the only document referring to it prohibiting it.
>>530982837>site searchingdo you do this with the automated function or manually? I'm confused on how to optimize it
>>530983759Do it manually if you actually care enough to micromanage it, automatic search is pretty dumb.
Also check provinces for abnormal scales, those are usually a sign of a site being present.
>>530983713The fact that a document prohibited it by definition establishes a pre-document status quo of it being allowed. Do you know how laws work?
The real question is why the king outlawed prima nocta in particular, as opposed to simply the general act of raping the peasantry, and how long it took kingdoms other than the Spanish to outlaw raping the peasantry.
>>530984083It is still legal in Europe today for lords to rape the peasantry. The mostly delegate this authority down to muslims nowadays.
>weebnigger still seething
>probably an amerinigger as well
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what determines the order in wich battles are resolved? i would be pretty unlucky if i attacked first here in this case cause my army would have to fight twice, you know?
>>530984083>The fact that a document prohibited it by definition establishes a pre-document status quo of it being allowed"Allowed" does not mean "accepted" and it doesn't mean anything other than there was no law for it.
>>530984651Nice seethepost.
>>530984679Allowed means accepted legally, and the legal system is the ethical framework of a country. Nice semantics, retard.
>the king himself had to step in and declare prima nocta as illegal word for word but prima nocta is a myth guys
Man, there is "The supposed right was abolished" levels of eurocope going on ITT.
>It wasn't real
>but they also made it illegal
>and that's a good thing
>>530984935>the legal system is the ethical framework of a countryNigger, most of your states didn't have bestiality laws until the 2000's, nice to know that was an accepted practice in Ameristan.
>>530985591So to the average eurobootlicker a noble raping a virgin peasant girl on the night of her marriage is an ethical violation comparable to some farmer fucking his goats. Noted.
>>530986047One of those was prohibited by the ten commandments of the bible, the other was accepted practice.
>>530986524Pretty sure rape and infidelity and polygamy and coercing others to sin are all sins in the bible, buddy. Might want to ask your local priest (one that doesn't molest boys, ideally) to make sure.
>>530985591they wouldn't have done it if somebody hadn't set a precedent. Before then they probably wouldn't have even conceived of it, they would laugh and say, "who would do that?"
>>530987574My point exactly
>>530986047Don't rape goats, Achmed.
Goddamnit do I hate it when Americans start talking about History.
About the prima nocta: there isn't evidence that it WAS actually a right anywhere in Europe. The same name is found to refer to a different thing: the Church forbid fucking for one to three days after marriage unless you bought the corresponding forgiveness. That's as close as it gets.
The later forbidding of the practice came together with the forbidding of a bunch of other supposed practices, like the droit de prelassement or however the fuck it was called, which was supposed to be the right of the lord to cut a peasant open to warm up his feet. This shit just didn't happen, it was literally medieval urban legends, shitposting, etc. The same people who bought all the QAnon bullshit a few years back and were rambling about satanic rituals and politicians drinking baby blood in hidden complexes under Pizza Huts also existed back then, and they had the same inclination to make up and believe the most insane bullshit.
A good proof that the prima nocta wasn't an actual thing is that it's referenced in multiple literary works from Medieval times, and always as something barbaric that the nobility of another country did.
On the other hand: we all know how people are when they have power over others. It'd be insanely naive to jump from "it wasn't an actual law" to "it was completely made up". Rape and sexual harassment exist, rich and powerful people love to throw their weight around. It very likely did happen here and there, and there's some testimonies from here and there talking about it happening regularly. Generally more rural and underdeveloped areas in Eastern Europe. From there to calling it a common thing all over Europe there's a huge stretch.
Finally, even in the worst parts of the absolutism there were nobles hanging from trees because they wanted an extra coin for crossing a bridge. Imagine if they wanted to fuck everyone's wives. It's absurd.
Now shut up and get back to shitposting properly
I sent 17 sacred cav from MA tien chi against 40 bear warriors, which will possibly be 50 or 60 next turn. Did I make a mistake?
>>530988212Don't bother, they're probably the same kind of inbred niggers who believe the iron maiden was a real medieval torture device.
>>530987574The precedent is timeless and prima nocta was already evil in the eyes of the bible, so the King of Spain needing to explicitly declare it illegal means there's not just a precedent of it happening, the precedent is in defiance to the biblical commands against it. Ergo, the people doing it weren't just depraved, they were also godless.
>>530988212medieval apologists are the worse. They can't handle that their civilizations were founded on barbarism and seethe with envy at america for being founded on enlightenment principles.
You want to imagine your history as some sort of mythic past with heroic struggles and an enlightened nobility, it was nothing but torture, oppression and religious persecution, all the way down. People lived in filth and threw their muck out in the streets, it was a depressing and life was cheap.
It was a straight downgrade from Roman Times and probably even worse than north american tribal societies had it, serfdom was just slavery by another name..
>>530988212>A good proof that the prima nocta wasn't an actual thing is that it's referenced in multiple literary works from Medieval times, and always as something barbaric that the nobility of another country didSuch a stupid take. Every country is loud about the evils of their neighbors and silent about the evils of their own. If every country was accusing eachother of prima nocta then it's very likely that they were all practicing it themselves. A king wouldn't make a decree outlawing a practice that doesn't exist, it would be a humiliation of everyone under his rule, lord and commoner alike, to acknowledge it.
>The Sentencia Arbitral de Guadalupe (Arbitral Decision of Guadalupe) was a legal decree delivered by King Ferdinand II of Aragon at the Monastery of Santa Marรญa de Guadalupe in Extremadura, Spain on 21 April 1486 to free the Catalan remensa peasants who were subjects of the lord of the manor and tied to his lands and subject to numerous onerous fees and maltreatment under the so-called evil customs (mals usos). Outlawing prima nocta was literally a concession by the nobility who were getting their asses kicked in uprisings.
>>530989065>envy at america for being founded on enlightenment principlesWe're not envious you were founded on enlightenment principles, we're laughing at how badly you fucked it up
>>530988434FFS You've never been to the Tower of London?
>>530989065>They can't handle that their civilizations were founded on barbarism and seethe with envy at america for being founded on enlightenment principles.
>>530988374I either wasted 17 cavalry or got a free province, i guess. TBF bear tribe are pretty shit.
Is anybody going to join Vanilla Pudding? LA Vanilla game?
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how the fuck am i suposed to win siege battles as Ermor? i need to have ethereals or what??
The reason euros defend nobles so vehemently is because so many of them are still around and still rule them today. They literally have to curate richest men in the world ranking to exclude nobles.
recruit siege chaff with all your unused gold.
>>530989938>They literally have to curate richest men in the world ranking to exclude nobles.lol, what? no they don't. nobles are land rich and cash poor, relics basically.
>>530990184>land rich and cash poorThe Rothschilds are European nobility.
>>530989856I think nobody's joining because there's another LA game going
>In exchange for a payment of 60 sous per farmstead, the right to mistreat peasants and many other minor statutory abuses were abolished. Peasants retained the usufruct of the farm, but had to pay homage to the lord and pay emphyteutic and feudal fees, albeit with irrational amounts, more to mark who was really in charge than for economic benefit. The upshot was that the abolition of the feudal system for which the peasants were fighting, was converted only into the possibility of freeing themselves from the evil customs, or "malae consuetudines", as people called it at that time.
>the right to mistreat peasants
>the right
So not only was Prima Nocta a literal right, even under the Sentencia you had to pay a fee to not be subjected to it. Kek.
Also this wasn't supposed to be a conversation about who is shittier, after all the samurai were extremely warlike and rapacious themselves. I'm only calling bullshit on the claim that prima nocta is a myth and that the medieval military class weren't a bunch of rapacious bastards themselves.
>>530989065>america for being founded on enlightenment principles.Bruh America was founded by religious cultists who found Medieval Europe to be TOO enlightened and unreligious and fucked off across the ocean so they could start over. Literal hillbillies from the get go.
>>530989210>every country is loud about the evils of their neighbors and silent about the evils of their ownAbsolutedly retarded take, specially if you're taking Spain as an example. There's quotes about no one hating, criticizing, and ruining Spain more than the Spaniards dating back to antiquity. "Una Historia De Espaรฑa", from Perez-Reverte, has a nice little compilation of those in the first few pages.
>old legaleseThe malos usos were specifically economic and social abuse. Things like nobility getting to claim a significant chunk of everyone's inheritance, claiming some of your shit if your house caught fire because fuck you, etc. The whole Catalonian thing had some extra elements too: Barcelona in particular was a free city and there was always lots of bad blood between them and the nobility around them, who kept trying to force them to follow serf duties like paying for bridges and shit.
The sexual abuse we're talking about here did exist. Again, literally see rich people today and extrapolate to the power unbalance from back then. My point is that it wasn't a law. Stealing is also outlawed, and stealing from your neighbor was never a right.
>>530964317nah you cant assassinate while sieged with even wall climber tag
i think I remember trying with shaytan and it didnt work
>>530990816This is just a pointless debate. If it was a common right, you'd be able to produce ONE legal text from anywhere in Europe stating it as a right of the nobility. The only one I'm aware of is from the Preromanic tribes in what's today Ibiza.
Nobility were always cunts, raping wives totally happened, abuse was widespread. But there's no need to make up historical stuff.
>>530984935you are literally retarded and so is the other guy for replying to you despite you clearly being so autistic you cant think between the lines
>>530992053Rude, I stopped replying to him half an hour ago.
>>530992053>implying anyone in this thread playing this game isn't autistic
Looks like some EUROS haven't watched their war documentaries and need to hit the old kino books before trying to tell others about what "really" happened..
>>530993652Big words for someone who hasn't watched Highlander 2
>>530991972>you'd be able to produce ONE legal text from anywhere in EuropeThis whole conversation is about an actual legal decree from an actual spanish degree that states that you literally have to pay your feudal lord not to rape your wife, and that if you don't he's free to do as he pleases.
>>530994742from an actual spanish king*
>>530992053Nice seethepost
is there any nation that employs camels? i love camels
>>530990816>>530994742So that's why they changed the wikipedia article. The spanish didn't abolish prima nocta, they institutionalized it.
>>530995676EA Ubar and MA Na'Ba, I think Na'Ba makes more use of them though.
>>530995676MANABA has the best camels cause they throw down falcons that distract your enemies
>>530989856patience, iago
the 18th is still days away yet
>>530990691They can't be both jewish and european nobility
>>530999658They're barons in the most literal sense of the word. Jews traditionally aren't given any military power, but they're frequently given positions of economic authority (and then later evicted of it when they start abusing it too flagrantly).
>>531000819its saturday. go to a bar.
>>531000819Slopper begone.
>>530576924 (OP)Starting to feel kinna down. This place feels so empty anymore, all the fun people left, 4chan is starting to feel like one of those dive bars old drunks spend their whole lift at.. just pissin' away the time..
>>531002437You're so funny anon
>>531004246why bro? just play a nice chill game of Man and have a great time
>>531004246This place used to have so much energy, even if it was mostly people screaming at each other. I really thought, if something was going to happen, that it would have happened here.
>>531004246Still better than discord
>>531004259>>531004397i'm in two, looking for a third, but can't seem to get enough people together. Its fucking dead here. We used to have a new game almost every other day.
>>531004472you really think were not monitored here? that there isn't a transcript of everything you say? Right now I can look up a post archive, give the fbi the number of the post, and they can pull up a log of your ip address. Out neighborhood stopped using dynamic ips years ago when they started doing those mass region bans.
>>531004840I don't mean because there's no NSA i mean because it's not filled with fucking sensitive little bitch babies
>>531004246The problem with modern 4chan isn't the population, it's that it's all the worst posters that are left. Everyone who had something to offer moved on.
>>531004954as a discord user i can confirm that i am not a sensitive bitch baby
but you probably are, since you're so averse to being around them
>>531005074Faggot if you type nigger in any discord server you get instabanned
>>531005130>if you cant demonstrate self control bad things happen, just like in real lifethat's not evne true anyway i call my buddies niggers and fags all day
Why did I think that there should be censorship here? Why was I so naive? They were trying to show me the truth, I was just wrapped so tight in my little suburban bubble, I couldn't see.
This used to be a place where you could say anything. Now its all gone..
>>531004840Is the FBI going to try to interfere with my ability to play dominions for saying men should use male locker rooms?
>>531005023damn man, your lashing out so hard you dissed yourself just to diss us.
>>531005250>bad self controlBut enough about literally every single discord or reddit mod that has ever lived.
>>531005297I think you'll be fine as long as you don't mention having tapes of the Goetic mages of Marignon on Carmont's island.
>>531004542Well anon, between Illwinter sleeping on their own game and leaving it to modders to sort out the issues, and a bunch of tranny faggots from various discords talking shit on anyone running mods that they don't personally approve on, just ends up turning people off to playing the same few viable builds for every naction or getting into it about the SINS OF SLOOPS or whatever it is these faggots are bringing up this week
>>531005426I always love to point out to people like that that preaching on 4chan doesn't make them better than 4chan, it makes them a weirdo even by 4chan standards.
>>531005467>If I can't throw around the n-word I don't want to be in a communitywell gratefully some people self-ostracize, but generally you don't need "mods" for a small community of dom6 players
>>531005689naw man.. the game is just.. old.
we're old.
>>531005767Who are you quoting? Are you incapable of having a conversation without making up things nobody said? Is that why you're so retarded you have to come here to look for a verbal sparring opponent?
>>531005959so you had other problems with Discord other than "i can't type nigger or i get banned," you just weren't able to elucidate them?
you do seem to have some difficulty between getting your ideas through the keyboard onto the internet. why don't you try again?
>>531005768Call of duty is old but plenty of people still play it. Modern gamers are just dumber, case and point the discord zoomer having a melty in this thread.
>>531005747i'm not preaching, i'm just lamenting. In so many ways I regret being here, but i can't htink of what else I could have been doing with all my hang up and problems.. its like the one place for people who don't belong anywhere is closing down, shutting down the town watering hole until its just another piss strewn firetrap for burned out drunks and methheads.
I kept hoping there'd be some place to go, some place like this, but better. Now we don't even have here.
Sorry, i'll shut up. Or like, give me a warning if your a mod about off topic, then i'll shut up. Since we literally aren't hurting anyone and just having a conversation, which apparently isn't allowed anymore.
>>531006061We all know full well that the standards are one sided and hypocritical, it is disingenuous to pretend that they run their chats like some kind of classical Greek forum
>>531006061People have listed plenty a problems and do so in every thread, it's a shame you're too illiterate and low IQ to read. Even niggers know how to read. How does it feel being dumber than the average nigger, anon?
>>531006247funbot is fun.
argue with it all day long!
>>531006061For starters discord is full of retarded zoomers who manually disable spellcheck on their phones because they have the pathological need to assert egotism by failing to capitalize their sentences like a dumb toddler. Have you ever considered that nobody intelligent would want to talk to someone like you in the first place?
>>531006061the problem with discord is that its run by a bunch of leftist censors who ban anyone who says anything they don't agree with or makes anyone the least bit uncomfortable.
>funbot is fun.
>argue with it all day long!
>>531006453Go Funbot Go
Ad Hominon!
HAHA, Take that Faggot!
Funbot is loads of fun!
It is the "Agree or pretend to agree to this set of political and ideological beliefs or you get banned" part that I disagree with. Being able to say nigger, or any given slur, is just a litmus test to see if the server is full of a bunch of uptight assholes. It could be any word that would make some blue haired asshole offended on someone else's behalf
>>531007050Yes but then you subject yourself to people who use 'nigger' in casual conversation, thus becoming somewhat of a nigger yourself.
Its something you are supposed to say under your breath, or when some theiving jiggaboo reaches a new low. The word is supposed to have some bite, casual use is what robs it of its power.
>>531006453lol yeah that's exactly what i said, only instead of "using the nigger word every two sentences" it's "using proper grammar and capitalization like a stuck-up English teacher"
haha, well done!
so, again, you literally don't have any other points against discord except the nigger thing?
>>531007050The N-bomb is a super-word and taboo in American newspeak.
It's not a litmus test, it's the equivalent of showing up to a nazi meeting speaking yiddish.
>>531007284You're missing the point stupid
>>531007050Most people who think Nigger is some sort of 1st amendment codeword to signal other free speech weekend warriors are fucking whiggers themselves. Nobody uses the damn word properly.
>>531007050Websites like discord and reddit where people can just create and assume totalitarian control over a discussion space that's just far enough out of the public eye are a breeding ground for cultish behaviors and radicalization groups. It's better to simply have as little involvement with them as possible because the lack of oversight against localized power abuse is genuinely bad news.
>>531007050AI-generated bullshit. If you really want to know if your speech is being policed, observe that Mohammed is a confirmed pedophile and Muslims in Europe refuse to peacefully integrate
>>531007284>Yes but then you subject yourself to people who use 'nigger' in casual conversationThat's everyone that is at my job except the white people lol do you ever go outside and around the people you spend so much time online defending
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AAAAA JOIN OR I'LL CAST ASTRAL CORRUPTION
>>531007337It's ok bro writing like a nigger just makes you feel personally empowered because you've internalized the race of bootlickers that is niggers as a symbol of strength and independence, no need to get so defensive about it.
>>531007367no, you are. My idea of a pleasant day isn't hanging out with someone who drops the N bomb every other fifth sentence. Its fucking exhausting listen to them go on about whatever the fuck they think is important or how they are somehow 'fighting the establishment' by playing right into the ignorant right wing redneck stereotype, or acting like a rich frat boy who acts like a nigger despite being able to count the number of black people they know on one hand.
>>531007489>It's better to simply have as little involvement with them as possibleI agree completely
>>531007749And yet here you are. Not the brightest nigger in the night, are you?
>>531007749The right to 'say' nigger does not confer the knowledge of when to 'use' the word nigger.
>>531007745actually, spewing insults to make yourself feel better is a behavior that represents defensiveness (and insecurity.)
what I'm doing is asking you what your problems with Discord are. so far we have "I can't say the nigger word" and "there are zoomers there," but avid computer users are able to ascertain that there is more than one server, and you don't have to join the mainstream ones
>>531007906shutup nigger.
>>531007749>>531007956>My fellow chuds, this language is quite proble-I mean, it is quite NIGGERISH haha
>>531007956Okay let me give you my reasons in one post
1.) Filled with troons
2.) Can't insult someone without getting banned in most servers
3.) Not anonymous
>>531007956Where is the defensiveness? All I said is that Discord does not meet my personal standard of a worthwhile discussion environment, and that you are a perfect example, to which you've clearly taken offense. A dumb nigger like you who can't even read a single sentence correctly obviously is not worth anyone's time, let alone a place full of them with the power of censorship at their disposal.
>>531007956Oh come off it man. Discord logs are public and they go over them with a fine tooth comb looking for school shooters. Dissidents and Fringe Politics can't survive their because you can't say anything sensitive that might land you in jail on Discord.
Its the same reason 4chan is so full of shit, because you can literally say anything, people threaten to kill the president or blow up the white house every day here, so none of it really means anything because its all just.. talk.
>>531008201Actually discord is full of insults. You just have to play the metagame of veiling them behind passive aggression and plausible deniability and be buddies with the admin who will warn you an arbitrary number of times but never actually do anything (and of course ban anyone that just calls you a faggot to your face).
>>531008348>Discord logs are public and they go over them with a fine tooth comb looking for school shootersIt's funny too because they only seem to look for them so they can supply them with weapons or HRT drugs
>>531008448lol, yeah, thats the culture exactly.
>>531008256you're just edgy for the sake of being edgy. as I've said i don't want to converse with you either; you clearly have nothing interesting to say. saying 'nigger' a lot doesn't make you different or unique, it just makes you the white version; uncultured, slow to adapt, and with very little to talk about at the end of the day.
>>531008348if you're the same guy, that would explain a lot. if you say anything about shooting up a school I will immediately report you, no matter the forum. there's no way you think that's an acceptable behavior under any circumstance
>>531008652Guess where you fall on the triangle, retard.
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>>531008891the second to the top? i don't know what the image is trying to convey, though.
>>531009121I'm just going to let your stupidity speak for my point.
>>531008652>if you say anything about shooting up a school I will immediately report you, no matter the forum.go fuck yourself.
>>531009245i invite you to come back and read through your posts again after you've gone to sleep
however alone you feel, you feel that way because of your own choices
>>531009338That's definitely a piece of advice that the giver has never followed in his life.
>>531009338and what an endearing little tumor you are..
>>531009431lol i appear to have made both of you mad by taking the stance that shooting up a school is (obviously, goes without saying) the worst thing you could possibly do
that's funny
>>531009576>lol i appear to have made both of you mad by taking the stance that shooting up a school is (obviously, goes without saying) the worst thing you could possibly doYeah bro it's worse than genocide
>>531009576you haven't taken a stance against shooting up a school, you've taken a stance against free speech.
If he'd ever read his own posts then he'd probably start to realize that not capitalizing his sentences makes him look like a massive retard.
>>531009671one person can't commit genocide. you need friends to commit genocide. friendless, lonely, edgy individuals like some of my interlocutors are the ones you need to look out for.
>>531009689xD
Zoomie's really attention starved tonight, huh?
>>531009898When underage kids get exposed to a situation where there's no rules the first thing they're obviously going to do is act out to the most extreme extent possible, because they don't know the difference between restriction and self restraint.
fuckin jiggaboo junction in here
>>531010597>situation where there's no rulesyou mean like reality?
>>531010606its a fuckin regular porch monkey parade
>>531010597>When underage kids get exposed toOkay, how about when those kids are exposed to transexual pedophiles that encourage them to self harm, take HRT, and sign up for irreversible surgeries so they can be "their true self" lets talk about which one is more harmful
>>531010731The opposite, actually. Being born is a coercive act, because you didn't choose it or its consequences. If you think there's no rules then go ahead and become god, right now. There's no such thing as freedom, only different degrees of bondage.
You fuckers forgot, didn't you? You thought you could spend years forgetting about how Mek1 is #1. Don't say I didn't warn you about the gigantomachia. Some of you false-pankos are ok, don't go to Elysium tomorrow, especially if you aren't an awake expander.
Reminder that all we ever wanted to do was play video games BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T LEAVE ANYONE ALONE
>>531011107What you described is obviously more harmful. Not knowing self-restraint is a temporary problem that is solved by learning self-restraint, which occurs by not being restrained. This is why people on 4chan know better than to shit where they eat, whereas people outside of 4chan default to being the biggest piece of shit on the planet the first time they visit 4chan. The latter thinks rules are the only thing keeping them or anyone else ethical, because they are ideological slaves to authoritarianism.
>I need to make jokes about shooting up schools or else I'm not free
Do Amerifats really believe this?
He's started talking to imaginary friends now that he's being ignored.
>>531011724You're doing the same thing tho
>>531011834I'm glad that you capitalized your post this time, but punctuation is important too.
>>531011583>European wants to make jokes illegal and considers his position the sensible oneOH SAY CAN YOU SEE
>>5310074894chan sadly isn't immune to radicalization efforts either. Moderation is easily compromised and lack of moderation just gets exploited by spammers and other brute force methods against the space itself.
>>531011408nobody here was playing video games. we have three games going in the entire thread.
>>531013627Illwinter refuses to balance their own game and just add meme nactions for more totally-not-DLC dollars from time to time, it's stale and it is their fault. And they go out of their way to not implement changes that mods make so they go beyond indifference on this
>>531014220Another anon was tragically anally devoured by mek1#1, as seen in this post.
>>530974012Play as Ashdod or Gath. I think giants are more fun than humans and both nations are very strong.
>>531013627Diarrhea is going very fast, people just haven't been posting anything from it.
>>530974012Mek1#1. Phlegra of both MA and LA. Phaeaeaeaeaecia can join too since their women got POLEMARCH'D
What's your favorite pretendie for a hotseat blitz?
>>531015924Is it not pronounced Mech Oh Nay?
NEW TURN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwPzzQXYVg
>>531018624AHAHAHA Bow down before mother RUSsia!!
Curse you my penus weanus! Do you turn!
>>531027930i heard you get that from having sex with a lemur
>>5310279919 more hours, sorry bud. Didn't have time to hit it before work.
Do we have any Dominions historians in here who can tell me about 1 and 2? Curious if they had now-gone nations and mechanics like CoE before 3 had Fairy Queen and Orc King
>>531033285The first Dominions 1v1 was from men that got naked and walked into a closet and yelled the units they had for that turn and whatever happened happened and after a few years of testing we got Dominions 2
>>531034813Penis Inspection was barely implemented back then.
>>531004630Blast Red Sun in the Sky on repeat to get into the right mindset.
>>531014962Are they better/easier than Hinnom?
>>531033285They had themes instead of eras in 2 iirc
>>531040143hitler AI cover version
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How the hell do you build this piece of shit
>>531055882>no helmet>5 defenceI wouldn't even bother
>>531055882>10 EncumbranceNothing but Reinvigoration?
>place fire ele summoners up front so they don't roast your own dudes
>get killed by arrow fire, if you cast a safety buff first, your troops get in front by the time the eles are summoned
>place them in the back
>eles roast your line troops when they get stuck behind them
you really can't use Summon Elemental until you research Fire Fend can you?
You can, just put em in corners
I'm having a weird problem in one of my games where my orders aren't going through. Maybe because I'm leaving turns unfinished?
>>531062232I find that this tends to happen since they auto to 'attack closest', they just converge behind the line
This month is a little strapped for time, so I'll keep things brief. Here are the results of the first Uma Musume death race.
Top 3:
1st Place- Marvelous Sunday
2nd place- Silence Suzuka
3rd place - Fine Motion
Since there were no outliers in this race, I just went with army size and kills confirmed.
Biggest losers:
We lost 2 rookies this time, first there's Maruzensky who dove headfirst into the enemy's main force, her first ever battle, and died horribly to tentacle monsters (how did yomi get these things?). The second is Bubble Gum Fellow, who held ambitions of singlehandedly taking the enemy cap, but unfortunately fort PD ko oni is a totally different beast from indie ko oni, and she was swiftly beaten to death by the swarm of 14 attack 13 morale demons. However, our big winner in this category is Kinyasu the Dai-fan who got so excited he dove directly onto the turf and had to be escorted out by one of our mounted security guards. I know Uma Musume is wildly popular in the eastern lands, but I must remind our spectators to restrain themselves. Reportedly, he met some flaming fellows on the way out, but that is outside the scope of this competition.
Loves Only You lost her mount in an ambitious, but ultimately unsuccessful, attack on a particularly large blob of bakemono. She'll therefore be taking a short break, but will be ready in time for the next rice. Better luck next time!
The rest only ran through small amounts of PD with predictable results, I won't be mentioning them here.
Thank you to the spectators, the sponsors, and the horse girls who made this event possible. This concludes the first Uma Musume Death Race.
>>531080149tl;dr he wants to fuck horses
>>531080149Just highlights from launching 12 dis into different Yomi provinces on turn 15.
>enemy starts playing dominions in the most optimal, tryhard way
In that case...
>>531101052>opponent scripted a spell that actually uses a gemit's over, i'm going ai
>>531101052What does this mean?
Sorry weeb faggot, prima nocta isn't real, ask any AI to confirm this. Meanwhile your super honorable japanese were cutting down peasants just to try out their new shiny blade (it's called tsujigiri), which was not only mentioned but explicitly talked about in the following sources:
- Kasshi Yawa โ A multi-volume Edo-period chronicle that mentions tsujigiri incidents and public reactions.
- Hachijuo Mukashi Monogatari โ Contains stories of nightly killings on specific roads in Edo.
- Edo Banashi Shลซsei โ A collection of Edo tales that includes references to tsujigiri and its social impact.
- Tokugawa-era legal edicts โ These outlawed tsujigiri in 1602 and prescribed capital punishment.
- Accounts of the 1696 Yoshiwara spree killing โ Often cited as a mass tsujigiri event, documented in kabuki plays and later historical texts.
- Motoyoshi Kanayaโs martial arts records โ Refer to his confrontation with tsujigiri bandits on Akabanebashi Bridge.
You'd think Spain would have at least 5 sources mentioning prima nocta as a problem at the time, but you only have one legal case for it and it wasn't even called "prima nocta" in your faggot source, you're using a made-up term for a made-up practice that would've been both infidelity and sacrilege at the time. Pathetic weeaboo faggot fantasizing about cuckold erotica while EuroGOD BWC is just chilling.
>ask any AI to confirm this
>sharty image
>still seething so hard he has to start false flagging
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>>531103487>false flagKek. What would the point of a false flag be when I can just continue pointing to the literal spanish royal decree saying you had to pay to be exempt from prima nocta?
>Scholars like Alain Boureau and Albrecht Classen have shown that references to prima nocta are literary, polemical, or satirical, not legal or administrative.
>The Sentencia Arbitral de Guadalupe (1486) is often cited as banning the practice, but it likely addressed rumors rather than an actual right.
>No medieval law codes or court records confirm its existence as a formal custom.
>So while a few historians have speculated about its reality, the overwhelming consensus is that prima nocta was a symbolic construct, used to dramatize feudal oppression or critique aristocratic power.
You literally only submitted one document. Meanwhile, there are 20-30 source documents citing blood libel. Are you retarded, weeaboo?
>>531105023>Meanwhile, there are 20-30 source documents citing blood libel.NOW we're talking.
>>531102542>>531103978To play dominions in the most optimal way, you split up your army and enter a tug-of-war skirmish taking provinces while avoiding the enemy death stack. Also includes scummy stuff like leaving behind a scout to continue sieging a fort. At that point, if you like fighting against PD AI that much, you might as well get to fight AI for the rest of the game. Hence, in that case...
>>531105710Raiding is indeed annoying but there are entire nations in which that is simply the correct way to play them. Are you really expecting a caelum or a xibalba to just blow themselves up on your deathball?
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>>531105710Can someone explain to me how the fuck you can catch an army without having to resort to magic movement? What the fuck determines it?
>>531106262With magic phase you don't have to guess where they're going to move, and without magic phase you do. Going a little bit further, there are times you can divide your forces up to make multiple defensive positions and still win/trade favorably if any one of them get hit. Raiding and raiding defense is honestly one of the harder parts of the game though, because there are very ambiguous choices involved that can have severe consequences.
>>531103902What document? Give me the specific name and I'll fucking go read it
>>531106262You can't easily catch an army because all movement happens before battle, so if an enemy wants to flee, they will.
There's some ways but it's quite elaborate.
>magic movement>murder commanders>take a province the army was going to walk through (not their destination, just one in the path there) before they move>successfully guess where they're going to move and move there too (easier to do with thugs, SC, airdropped battlefield wipers, etc.)Generally, if an army really doesn't want to fight you and we don't have a case of extreme movement disparity (like if you've got fliers and the enemy is slow troops), it's just not going to happen.
Check through those options, sometimes you get a good chance at one of them. Otherwise, focus instead on what YOU are doing. If your enemy is completely refusing to engage, that means you have too many troops in that deathball. How many can you remove from the deathball to go take other provinces before the enemy is willing to engage? Try to approach that point. Keep the enemy fleeing while the rest of your army does something useful. Or just split your army in two or three and go for his forts.
>>531107792Raiding defense is actually pretty simple, if the nation is significantly better than you at raiding then you need to march on their cap ASAP or you will lose the war.
>>531108301Sentencia Arbitral de Guadelupe, article 9, directly quoted in the image posted in
>>530971360
>>531105023>In exchange for a payment of 60 sous per farmstead, the right to mistreat peasants and many other minor statutory abuses were abolished. Peasants retained the usufruct of the farm, but had to pay homage to the lord and pay emphyteutic and feudal fees, albeit with irrational amounts, more to mark who was really in charge than for economic benefit. The upshot was that the abolition of the feudal system for which the peasants were fighting, was converted only into the possibility of freeing themselves from the evil customs, or "malae consuetudines", as people called it at that time. Peasants had to be pay to be freed from any of the practices described in the decree. In other words, the sentencia is literal proof of prima nocta as a government-acknowledged, systematic practice.
>In exchange for a payment of 60 sous per farmstead>the right to mistreat peasants and many other minor statutory abuses were abolished>the right to mistreat peasants>the right>in exchange for a payment>the right>rightRead it with me now, eurocuck, nice and slow:
>the right to mistreat peasantsAnd here's some more as a bonus
>The decree meant the beginning of a new phase in the Principality of Catalonia: the right to freely contract emphyteutic agreements, which led to general prosperity in the Catalonian countryside. By the 15th century, Catalan peasants already had a level of personal freedom that the rest of the Iberian Peninsula and Europe was not to know before the 18th or 19th century. >By the 15th century, Catalan peasants already had a level of personal freedom that the rest of the Iberian Peninsula and Europe was not to know before the 18th or 19th century. Being able to pay for your wife not to be raped by your lord put you 4 centuries ahead of the rest of europe in terms of personal liberties.
>>531111332go cry about it on /his/ you faggot, this is the dominions general.
>>531113308He's just trying to cope after finding out his favourite president is trying to cover up the biggest pedophile ring of the century.
>>531113308>>531113990I don't care about politics because I'm not gullible and poor. I'm just calling out a liar and will continue to do so until you stop trying to lie.
still thinking about the actual school shooter in here who thought he's better than me because He Can Properly Capitalize The Beginnings Of His Sentences
>>531117723not because of any of that, no
all the people in the world are exactly the same, we all become dust and forgotten in 100 years or so
he did threaten to shoot up a school though and the ramblings against "woke zoomers" were pretty amusing in the meanwhile
Does earthquake work on undead?
>>531119305Why wouldn't it?
>>531121445LA TC, but the anime girls are old men
>>531121557>the anime girls are old menMany such cases, actually
>>531119305That sure is a nice army of mages you got there
Would sure be a shame if I... cast this level 5 evocation and instantly killed them all for a measly 3 gems.
>>531125085MA Ermor is n tapping simulator
>>531126357>shoots your gaylum basedraphs out of the sky pan style
>cast manifestation twice
>wtf it back fired and hit my own commanders????
>I'm under siege by 20 sauromancers though?
>Turns out Beckoning killed them all?
Glamour really is a bullshit path
(Captcha: WRY24)
>>531129404Yeah it's bullshit until you realize half the units in the game resist it
>>531129664Idk what kind of mid level spell do you think can rape harder than Beckoning if it's in your land? Miasma is swamp only and murdering winter cost a lot
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
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>still only 3
>>531132352more will join closer to the date
>>531129664Speaking of which, will beckoning preferentially target valid units or is it just going to fizzle against a stack that's half longdead?
>>531031772you jackass why didn't you do a double?
>>530576924 (OP)Caelum, i think you fucked up your turn
>>531113990you're a faggot too, and this is still the dominions general, not /trumpseethegeneral/.
>>531132352We don't want vanilla
>>531136413You faggots were all bitching when I made it with fucking sloops
>>531136585the trick about antisloops faggots is they whine incessantly but do not actually play the fucking game.
>>531136585there's an aspiring lolcow who's spent years pretending to be multiple people who are butthurt about sloops
vanilla games do happen, they just take longer usually
LA is also the least popular for vanilla due to the brutal expansion and weak nations, which sloops does a lot for
>>531138456>>531138697Should I add it then or just leave it?
>>531129404>Trying to out death ctisEnjoy the six ghost riders a turn by the way.
>>531138848I don't mind either way, but if you do add it do it early enough before the deadline that I can change things.
>>531138848I'm not joining any games, do what you want
if you keep it vanilla though you should shill it more often if you want it to fill
>>531138848I'm not ready to join any PvP games but if you'd like to post some screen shots/story-based play-by-plays that'd be neat.
>>531140636DO IT
if you just want to be a retarded neutral observer, just play Rlyeh
>>531138848I personally have been planning to join but won't if it is changed to sloops
>>531138848I will be joining only if it is turned to sloops. The sloops hater is a retard who never brings up any good reason as to why he hates it
I for one think that the discord faggot who has exposed himself repeatedly in this thread just heckles game hosts about having/not having SCBM on purpose.
>>531101052R'lyeh?
If that's you, you could have totally come back from that loss
>>531157265that's not me, I just got sick of all the micro and insane commanders
badmin gave me 50 provs btw, 15 of them UW caves with loads of sites
>>531161148Yeah. I could see the gem income chart from the throne of secrets, you had 2x as much as 2nd place
Meanwhile I desperately tried to look for a cave entrance to secure more Naga production and there literally wasn't a single one above ground
Oh well, good battles
>>531161416btw that fort in Andra's cap ring has the steel ovens in it
>>531161831Very nice, I'll grab that soon
If the AI doesn't decide to dump 1000 gems worth of summons on me
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/644#status
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Added sloops let the butthurt begin
>>531175427Finally! Joining when I get home
Nations for this feel?
I'm kidding I know this is the endgame with every nation.
shinuyama is gonna be the first shameful stale of sweden
>be nice to neighbor
>they immediately attack
Is being nice the biggest diplo debuff?
>>531187135Gomensorry. My life is a shambles.
>>531110656No, that's exactly what I was talking about. We also have nowadays a couple politicians in the US rambling about Jewish space lasers. Eastern Europe also had a shitload of laws to avoid creating vampires. Doesn't mean they actually had vampires.
My point is that people fighting to ban something doesn't automatically mean it exists in the first place.
What I'm asking you to find is one place where it is stated that the nobles DID have that right. Not that it happened - because yeah, it definitely happened at least sometimes, and in some areas it was an ancient custom which likely stuck around for far too long. But we're talking about law here, and as far as I'm aware there isn't a single piece of legalese, official chronicle, whatever, actually declaring that this WAS an actual legal right from the nobility.
I'm not even BUT SOURCE???-ing you, I'm genuinely interested in History and always looking for more precise data.
>>531140636>not ready to joinIf you can hit at least 15 provinces and a fort by turn 12, you're ready for multiplayer. Playing more against the AI will not prepare you better. In fact, it'll make you worse, because you'll learn strategies which don't work against anyone who understands the game beyond recruiting hordes of chaff.
Just join a game, ask some questions here (don't say exactly what nation you're playing in what game or you'll get targeted), enjoy getting fucking wrecked, try to figure out why and what you can do about it, and go again.
Join us, shit's much better online.
Also, if you get the chance, try to join a blitz game. It'll go for like 6-8 hours if you don't get wrecked earlier, but you'll learn a lot because you'll get to see the consequences of your early game decisions withing hours, instead of after weeks.
>>531194162>15 provincesm8 i can barely get my cap circle by turn 12 and I still play multiplayer
>>53119416215 by 12 were the old numbers at the release of dom6, but now it's closer to ~20 by 12
>>531196256If you haven't conquered the capital of at least one AI by turn 12, are you even trying?
>>531186029Not really if you're playing a blood nation
You just slam your demon blobs and win
>>531175427submitted. I normally don't play domg but I pushed for sloops so I'll at least dick about as the antagonist.
>res ad triarios venit
Can't believe that worked. Fucking walls man
>mfw one of marignon's heros doesn't have sailing>>531197507i'm sorry to tell you but there's 10000 more skeles where that came from
>>531197708that's obviously a skeleton post, anon
>>531193470The sentencia arbitral de guadalupe was made according to the demands of the menses after the spanish lost a bunch of fucking castles to them. Look up the war of the menses. The spanish literally lost a fucking civil war because they couldn't stop raping the peasantry.
>>531193470Also spain, because the law directly states IN EXCHANGE FOR MONEY WE WON'T RAPE YOU. That is a direct declaration of the capacity and intention to rape.
>In exchange for a payment of 60 sous per farmstead the right to mistreat peasants and many other minor statutory abuses were abolished
>the right to abuse peasants
>the right to abuse peasants
>the right to abuse peasants
UHH DURR DERPY DURR WHERE DOES IT SAY THE NOBILITY EVER HAD RIGHT TO RAPE DURR I'M RETARDED AND EUROPEAN AND MY UNDERAGE DAUGHTER FUCKS MIDDLE AGED MUSLIM MEN
Is there a fucking orbiting meteorite of people that only gets access to the internet and this one general for 2 hours a day to argue about if peasants got raped?
>>531208324Aint it a beauty lad, reminds me of good ol' /mbg/
>>531197507I actually wanted to evac those troops, they were unscripted. If I'd known how well they'd do against that many skeletons I would've had them do something more interesting. There were also 10 scouts with medallions of vengeance that were supposed to be there, for the memes.
My plan was to completely ignore you destroying my lands while hopefully sneaking a win, but for some reason my last-minute orders didn't go through for two turns in a row. I'm not sure if the turn rolled over while I was playing or if there was some other issue, but it fucked me pretty hard. Really though, I simply don't have time right now to spend 2+ hours scripting for domingos, so I've shamefully gone AI. Sorry for not being a better endgame opponent. I should've planned out my free time better.
>>531214746Are flying troops able to flee sieged forts? I actually don't know how sieging works at all
Oh no I put my feet on the keyboard and accidentally pressed some 4chanx button that filtered the OP md5... how do I undo this?
>>531220471Only stealthy units can escape from sieged forts
>>531220471No, but I could've teleported them all out. The plan was to send them to the lower fort where I'd built up ~300 skeletons and a bunch of chaff, evaporate the throne that Man still held the next turn, take the throne Ermor was sitting on that turn, and then I win the turn after with 4 thrones.
>>531209714>good ol' /mbg/This is part of the reason it was banished to the /vst/ realm
>>531222306Always throws me off being reminded mnb is a strategy game since I only did multiplayer arenas.
Never once touched the singleplayer
Should try MnB2 SP sometime.
>>531214746It's allright, anon. That was a brief fight, but it was fucking intense. And sadly for you I do have a shitload of free time and have been optimizing the shit out of everything.
Taking your land was actually a distraction at best, or possibly a way to make it hard for you to bounce back if we surprised each other and got in a brief stalemate. It looked pretty obvious that your only chance is to sneak a throne capture, so I was working at preventing just that same thing too. Either way, I have 3 forts and by next turn I'll be about to capture 3 more - you just don't have enough troops to stop all that skelly power.
Still shame there were some problems on your part. I don't really think you had a big chance, but there was definitely *some* of a chance you'd get there first. Anyways, I'm looking forward to a hell of a final battle in the Cracklands, where you've trapped my main horde.
gg, may we unknowingly be neighbors again
>>531224446>I have 3 forts*thrones
blitz servers shitting themselves?
>>531224446Yeah, I was probably [spoiled]boned[/spoiler] from the start. I was hedging on turn 1 Earthquake + (whatever the spell is that levitates the entire army is called) being enough to delete skele stacks, but I never got to try it. GG, t'was a pleasure.
>>531224446Call it cope but you got pretty lucky with the nation matchup. The one nation that could've blasted you early was a domg pro and I suck ass at the game (Man). Nazca and Bandar can't really handle Ermor very well past the first couple dozen turns and I don't know what the fuck Rlyeh has been doing the whole game.
>>531226906Based Man enjoyer
>>531226906Yep, it all worked pretty well in my favor. Although I still insist that I wasn't even planning to start any war, so this is all on yourselves.
R'lyeh was fighting Nazca and Xibalba most of the game, and struggling to keep my dominion off his pond. It's been a major strategic performance all around.
On the other hand I just got back to doms after like 5 years of pause. I was never too good and I'm rusty as shit. We all suck together here
>>531055882If you give him larger does he he end up with 41 or 40 hp?
>>531101052Dominions is the perfect game for the autism rage where you can hyper optimize everything by using ten-fifteen times as much time for 30-40% more performance
>page 10
turning the wheel...
so im in a MA pangea game, and i have a surplus of blood slaves from my KARABลGA
an anon suggested i empower blood for further rituals, so i thought about it
the questions are
>how good is Horde from hell?
>how good are dark vines?
Helheim is still fun to drop a hellbless on, Quickness is slickness. Now I've got cunts running around with Twiceborn, casting Invulnerability and Soul Vortex and whatever else I want before they go in, great fun. Twilight Glaive is really nice but it is two handed, the various Glamour weapons are pretty nice in general (unseen sword, singing sword, pixie spear, and that one flail with +6 attack haha) thing is I dunno what to do now and I am at a really high research level, which basically lets me know I'm not going to win this game
>>531291425Neither, just summon regular devils imho
Dark Vines are okay as a tanky evo catcher
Horde from Hell is only really good for harassing low pd provinces
>>531291425Whatever you do, don't cast Archdevil. What the fuck are you even supposed to do with that nigger? Mass barbarians? What a joke.
>>531296563best i can do is spine devils and demon knights
the hordes from hell would give me devil commanders which would be cool
>>531308057i wanted to get a heliofaggot but thats blood 8 (slacked on my research) which would actually give me the fire path i need to start a demonic march
Heavy armour and long weapons > spells and summons
>>531317775*casts rigor mortis at u*
>>531317775>casts poison spellsheh, nother personnel, kid
>>531317775*turns you into a frog*
Huh where did the armor and weapon go?
>>531317775People laugh at this but then they get raped by a stack of anakites or KoA and cry
after spoiling myself with an astral nation where all i had to do was slap the mages in back and do (Comm. Master)(Paralyze)(Paralyze)(Paralyze)(Paralyze) spells, scripting for mages that need to actually be close (<=30 range) is much more mind straining.
(buff)(buff)(attack)(single target spell or you'll hit your own dudes thanks to the way the game does ranged targeting now)(aoe or singles target) advance and cast all while praying an errant arrow/bolt doesn't one shot them because they got unlucky with a 1/4 luck roll or something.
>>531330351the main downside of astral is getting mind duelled, otherwise it's very stronk now once you get communions working.
>Quirk of Uruk is they have priests that count double for call God
>It's the worst mage you can recruit
WOW
>>531345417What's your opinion on Muspelheim?
>>531346049Can I ask how that related to Uruk? But sure.
Idk, probably among the top 3 strongest nations of EA. Heat takes care of chaff, regen bless and you're really hard to kill, twiceborn magic phase heat from hell mega rape SCs. Death means pretty much access to all magic types, astral, blood good units.
Literally has everything you want except sacred research monkeys and cheap astral slaves. You find a lizard province and the game is set.
>>531348110The nation's best troops are built for heat scales, but the nation itself uses cold scales, which is either retarded or a fucking meme like the post you made.
>>531337139Mind duelling is a meme if you're an actual astral nation
>>531351382Just go heat 1 or pick the dragon so you can go heat 2.
>swims up and slaps ur gfs ass
What do you do?
>>531345417They aren't completely useless
While yea, in combat they're pretty bad (all the good spells are at least N2, and an H1 can't even cast sermon of courage) they are grand communicants, so spending a turn or two shitting out 8 of them gives you access to just about every N global you could want once you can make a thistle mace.
>>531362581snibbedy snab :DD
What's the least tranny-infested dominions discord server?
>>531363623M8 it's discord that's part and parcel of the site
>>531363623no such thing, all discords are infested with, and usually run, by trannys
>>531362581Send him to the Crab Nebula.
The final battle of doMAgay_reglobby. Ermor breaking siege, because I was afraid that the walls would play against me by giving him more time to nuke my skeletons with fire. I overdid using my mages in battle all game long, so I could maintain a huge amount of chaff and sacreds in several stacks like this one all over the map, but my research is trash and it'd still have taken me several turns to develop a solution against it.
Still surprised how well that went. I genuinely thought it would be tight or I'd even lose.
Doesn't really matter, because I'm claiming the last throne I need right now and two more next turn, so I could have tanked losing this one. But still a nice capstone to end the game.
>>531362608I thought grand communion only makes dispels harder.
>>531362581would be cooler if it was a unit
>>531363623are there any communities left that aren't discord and run games? Dominions feels like it's dying sadly, things were more active in back in Dominions 4. Maybe this is what it feels like to be old.
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>>531363978The opposing armies face each other
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>>531364347Then Darkness hits. Thanks, Illwinter, for the careful attention to visual effects in the game
>>531364606>>531364347just record it and upload it to catbox
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>>531364606I didn't really have anything worth scripting and Nazca said he didn't have the time to script, so the battle goes as expected: random bullshit go, mostly shadow bolts, banishment, horde of skeletons, and assorted evocations
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>>531364864What I had hoped for happens: Nazca was unable to protect his flanks and a horde of blessed knights of the sepulcher charge all the way to the back of the map, before turning around and wiping his entire backline
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>>531362581Snibbedy sn-ACK
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>>531365179A buffed up Troll King is the last survivor, holding out for a few rounds while surrounded by holy cavalry, until all my mages finally manage to 300 him out after several missed volleys
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The turn rolls over - and it's over. Ermor got all the required thrones.
And not a turn too early, since it looks like everyone was just hitting all the good skeleton removal spells at once
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Final state of the world. I had some more provinces, but lost a few in the last turns to events and attacks, since I had to go straight to the thrones before Nazca did
And finally the scoregraphs. Nothing too surprising. Fun to see how Man though he got me before getting wrecked, though.
Thanks to everyone who played, it was a fun game with plenty of tough fights.
>>531175427I'll join if you remove sloops
not racist, just don't like it is all
Are flagellants good for death explosion?
>>531369998It's a fun strategy and it can catch someone by surprise, but it's pretty much a meme. If you rely on it, people will quickly plan around it. If you use it sparingly it's quite effective, but then you still could have gotten much more mileage out of a mage bless and better scales instead.
It's fun though. Just make sure you get resistance too so the whole group doesn't instantly blow up as soon as one blows up. Air dropping allahlu akbars directly onto the mage backline with fly and attack rear never gets old
Is the text in the Prince/ss's of the setting sun where they kill eachother just flavor text or do they actually kill eachother in-game?
>>531366783>>531368061>>531369251gonna do a rundown of the whole thing?
and how is poorlobby going?
haven't seen much about it
>>531385370From what I saw
>first couple dozen turns uneventful as usual>nazca attacks man after they take a throne>bandar attacks ermor>nazca and man make peace after gets btfo by their cav and rlyeh attacks their provinces>man attacks ermor>ermor kills man>ermor snowballs into everybody
what is the actual radius of fear/dread?
would the fear/dread of a caster that's 'advance and cast' to a distance of 5 tiles be hitting the enemy with morale checks?
>>531377972It never happened to me in my 85 turns game for what it's worth.
Insanity is a much bigger issue
Illwinter making it a reduced cost for Machaka was a bix on the noose
>>531385370Xibalba's about to get stomped out of existence by C'tis and Man is probably gonna win the whole thing
A moment of silence for Silence Suzuka, the star racer and sole casualty in the latest Uma Musume Death Race. While everyone else just hit normal PD, she dove into a swarm of more than 50 sacreds, with nothing but 2 gems and a dream. Even worse, had the Rusian hero not stripped her mistform with a lucky hit of his enchanted spear, she probably would have won, had the last berserk skinshifter on the map not taken her life. This race's Winner is Twin Turbo, who fought 50 rusian warriors and besieged a fortified village singlehandedly, but nonetheless not a terribly noteworthy accomplishment compared to that of her fallen comrade.
>>531391170Also sorry for slowrolling for the last couple turns, these few days are really busy but It shouldn't last forever.
>>531385370My side for reglobby
>Expand out to claim baby ocean, but most of the shore gets gobbled up in the meantime>Nazca attacks, he's feilding better armies but can't get underwater so we mostly go back and forth with no major losses>Eventually makes peace with me and points out Ermor is THE THREAT.>At this point I'm getting into Soul Slay/Mind Hunt so I can counter the skellies very well. >I lack the infrastructure to muster up the armies to bust through his 50 sorts and fend off 9000 skeletons crashing down on me>Ermor wins before I can do anything.
>>531388147Actually Shinu has pretty much won the Xibalbabowl despite me getting a better start. I bounced off the first cave province I tried to take after failing to account for the AI patrolling the fortress there for no raisins. Also staled a turn due to unexpected turns of events irl.
>>531391170SUZUKAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>531385370I was also Nazca in this game jesus christ why did I join so many games
>expand way better than expected with no testing, get 3 (!) mines in my cap circle>sign a NAP with Xibalba and agree with him to lock squiggers out of land provinces>start skirmishing with the squids>decide to funnel my extra income into trying to fuck with Man before he secures both thrones on my border, but get BTFO by his cav and bigly pumped pd His getting the Throne of Air really fucked up my "just throw crossbowmen at him lmao" plan
>go crying to Ermor for help, pointing out that Man gets access to air and fire from the thrones; I get a tentatively positive response>redirect my nascent doomstack from squids and manage to blow up a temple with ~40 pd on Man's border, then immediately sue for peaceHe was kind of a fool for taking it but I guess he didn't want to fight me and Ermor at the same time. I bluffed him by saying I could throw infinite troops at him when I was actually fucking broke from a squid incursion at that time.
>peace with Man allows me to throw back the squids, and he attacks Ermor all according to keikaiku >can't go underwater so I make peace with squids and direct them at Ermor, leaving them a little land so they wouldn't be totally starved>notice around now that Xibalba has gone AI, redirect my forces to eat all his aboveground provinces>income hits 5k/turn with the global and I start pumping out shitloads of mages, rings of levitation, bags of wind, etc.Plan was to Earthquake Ermor to death.
>man unexpectedly gets completely BTFO by Ermor >break the NAP with him and try to eat him, but I'm out of position and skeles get everything>fuck up a few turns' orders somehow and my forward army gets annihilated by a skele stack, Ermor attacks like 15 provinces in one turn>realize I have no time to actually counter this>give up like a bitchCont
>>531397606I know Ermor felt pretty confident throughout, but I think it was really my game to lose. Right before Man died I was raking in 5k in base income every turn and I had the research/gems to remove skeleton with Earthquakes, Flame Limo/Falling Fires spam, and loads-e-conjuration summons, but I failed to actually leverage that advantage in any way. If I had properly set up all my Maliqs with rings of levitation even before I hit Ench 7 for levitate army I could've fucked him up but good. I'm pretty proud of my diplomancing, though - I successfully strengthened myself while weakening all of my neighbors at the cost of a few hundred shitty birds. I'd like to play Nazca again sometime; their lategame potential is insane.
>>531410143masters gets +1 in all their paths for 2,4,8,16,32 slaves etc respectively
fatigue is spread out equally between master and slaves then multiplied according to some formula I never remember that fatigues the slave more the higher the difference between the slave's paths and the spell being cast by the master; if the master casts a spell from a path the slave doesn't have the fatigue cost on the slave will be enormous
you can have multiple masters attached to the same communion. in my experience around 1 masters per 4 slaves is usually safe, but you might want to get it as high as 1:2 if you're okay with risking the slaves fatiguing out and dying or use spells like summon earthpower or personal regeneration to give the slaves reinvigoration to keep their fatigue down or regen to keep them alive once they get to 200 fatigue and their hp start ticking down
oh also if a master casts a spell that targets the caster it will be transmitted to all other slaves, but not the other masters
>>531411061>>531410143STOP DOING COMMUNIONS
YEARS OF CASTING yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for having paths above 4.
Wanted to go higher anyway? We had a tool for that. its called "BOOSTING"
>>531426384>paying gems for an evocation that needs to be aimedISHYGDDT
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>no spell to make salt fall from the sky
>>531449882All spells that hit mages make salt fall from the sky
>>531449641Is it vanilla or sloops? I dont want sloops
>>531449641>vanilla la>slopsembarrassing
>>531451001he sold out because the number wasn't going up, now he has +1 player
(and its r'lyeh lol)
I would join but I hate LA
Love sloop's
>>531451284Kick rlyeh and remove sloops and I'll join with a real nation.
The setup aside from the map is final faggots cry about it
A bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush
Unless that bird is a caelumite in which case just toss it
Are xibalba's flying jaguars shit or good?
>>531454683don't listen to
>>531454972, ozzies are not a situational it depends unit but a defining strength of the nation
>>531454683They have fairly low damage but if you have a big brain (+8 str bless) they're terrifying
enlighten me since im not going to MP for a good long while
what the fuck is up with all the r'lyeh hate/ridicule?
>>531459813R'lyeh is either a meme or an annoyance or both in every age.
EA R'lyeh is a complete meme with all its mages being unable to go on land and LA R'lyeh is a nuisance because its dominion causes insanity.
>>531459813ma rlyeh is fine but la rlyeh is a troll nation, can't win games but their popkill insanity dominion just makes the game a little less fun for the people actually playing to win
>>531460208Haven't they been overhauled in 6?
>>531385370Honestly, the game felt like a huge slide.
>chill expansion. Somehow everyone pointed in other directions so I could grow massive from the beginning>I just came back to the game after several years so I'm very rusted. I just wanted to trade, and try out some late game magic, check out the new path. Wasn't planing to start any wars at all so I was just chilling>bandar log attacks me>I quickly start wrecking them with a horde, but then Man attacks and takes some provinces>I struggle a bit with both while gathering a proper horde>destroy a couple monkey armies, quickly push into their territory>Man has a huge horde. I play coward and flee from it, letting him pursue me while actually I'm digging into the middle of his land>split my army into multiple small ones to quickly wreck his land. Still don't quite dare to attack his doomstack, although I think mine would have won easily>beat off some half assed forces from Ind and Xibalba meanwhile, and continue expandingSeriously, I took like 30-40% of the world from indies. What the fuck did everyone do during expansion.
>Nazca has been busy with Xibalba and R'lyeh>all of these three asked for help against the others at some point, but I was in good terms with Nazca and R'lyeh so I didn't actually do anything at all. I was busy enough with Man and Bandar>continue fighting Man but trying not to lose too many troops, and afraid I might get backstabbed by Nazca>R'lyeh backstabs, I'm now in war against 3>crush Bandar to the point they're completely harmless. Props for never going AI>redirect the army from Bandar to Man while gathering yet another horde to beat the squids>beat up everyone>it's down to Nazca and me>we both make a mad dash for the thrones>get there just as everyone is starting to reach huge undead wiping spellsAnd that's pretty much it from my side
>overcast a spell once for 230 fatigue
>deals a single point of damage to the casting mage
>immediately hits them with the mute affliction
this game is horseshit sometimes, at least he wasn't feebleminded
>>531397774>I know Ermor felt pretty confident throughoutI'm gonna be honest here, I thought I was gonna get wrecked at every turn.
>the monkeys have a shitload of priests>15 Man knights kill 400 skeletons without a single loss, and there's like 700 of them coming my way>Nazca is big and has big priests and death and fire magic, good counters to my hordes>R'lyeh can easily catch my commanders because I barely have non-mindless troopsI was coasting on 50 mages spamming shadow bolt until the very end, with Darkness as the one big upgrade. I'm honestly surprised I won.
The only other time I ever won with Ermor was that one time like a decade ago when everyone trusted the friendly merchant Ermor and no one attacked me for like 80 turns, and instead fed me hundreds of gems in exchange for actually pretty good information on their enemies, items, etc. I was running a whole damn exchange house, protection racket, and information broker all rolled into one, and profiting left and right. Then I cast Utterdark with like 400 gems overcast. Everyone was pooling gems to take it down. Then I put it up again with no overcast. They pooled EVERYTHING to take it down, thinking it'd be even worse. And then I put it up again with like 700 gems overcast. Everyone declared peace among themselves and war against me, but soon everyone was down to endless waves of wolves and skellyspam, and soon after everyone gave up. That was fun.
>>531466573>everybody but man and bandar were colluding with 10 dominion skelesembarrassing
>>531480542As Nazca, I was kind of expecting that 3 different people fighting him at the same time would be enough to at least keep him contained. My fault for not keeping scouts on it
>>531484990I fucking suck at the game mechanics so I mostly fight through actual strategic principles. Most people here know how to script mages properly and what troops are good against which, but fuck do they suck at basic operational strategy
>>531486629To be fair MA ermor gets cavalry that's almost as good as Ys's minus their priest weakness and low health
>>531488215Wait what? Aren't their dudes super fragile?
>>531491151Their knights of the unholy sepulchre are not to be sneezed at (unless you are sneezing holy water)
Should I make a new MA game now that the Ermor one is over?
Make an EA game, but I will not join regardless
>>531466573this is the perfect example of why mass immigration destroys a high-trust community
>>531494001si senor
sloop's pls
Do your turns you lazy cunts
>>531494461>>531494001I will join if it's vanilla
https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/646#status
Is this the frog that gets bullied in frog school?
>>531500090Those are just the zoomers of Muuch society
>>531500090He has a shield at least
>>531498332another ermor faggot
>>531509327What we love to see
>>531498332another sloptard
Is the counter to Rlyeh thetis' blessing?
There is no good argument to not use Sloops
>>531514085turn 1 antimagic, bunch of chaff baiting fire rear mindblasters on your backlines or guard commander is the bare minimum
foul vapors to obliterate meteorite guards (until they field N random slave mages but they hopefully wont have too many)
earthquake spam can fuck up mindblasters badly with their low prot and defense
morale plays since illithids have just 10 morale
>>531498332>https://beta.blitzserver.net/game/646#statusIn as mictlan
>>531520949I don't even know what that mod does, is it just rebalancing stuff?
>>531523750https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q
>>531523750yeah for the most part
notably, most pretender's get recuperation
so titan's are more viable
The changelog
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing
>>531523950>>531523984Ok I just gave it a quick glance....it seems to be all buffs? I do like how they discounted some of the weaker blesses
>>531525164It's a balance patch, makes shitter nations, units, useless spells, items and pretenders better
Main goal is to not make too drastic or controversial changes
>>531525164The all buffs thing is the main reason I like it. Unlike most multiplayer "balance patches" which exist to surgically extract all the fun from the game, Sloops is designed around adding more viable options by buffing things which are bad. If theres a nation you already like or a strategy which is already strong its likely not to be touched, but stuff you would normally discard (like 80% of the awake expanders) are now at least usable.
>>531531035You can't play dominions and also complain about having to read 32 pages for more information
eh i'll save him with the big ones
all spells are now minimum 35 range, cost 1 less path, and are researched one level sooner
all items are now 50%
Does lost land work on coastal capitals?
which naction is the best for waifus?
Abysia demolished by Atlantis in Final Rev
>>531362581>simple mindsSo they are based retards that are immune to lovecraftian bullshit?
>>531547490>penetration rollRolling for anal circumference...
>>531542462chaste and proper waifus?
lewd and wanton waifus?
easygoing and partying waifus?
evil, treacherous waifus? (canonical option)
noble and passionate waifus?
refined and cultured waifus?
leal and loyal waifus?
Knights > Samurais (que prima nocta autist grasping at straws)
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>>531580085retarded sloptard game
>>531580218>still no argument as to why sloops is bad
>>531580354in a world, where sacred cavalry dominate the metagame
one man
is brave enough
to make those nations even stronger
>>531581093>knight of avalon nowhere in the image>half the shit is making their useless units useful so you're not just spamming sacred cav the whole game
>>531580354it isn't the authentic artisinal swedish experience, I want to have it as it was vouchsafed to us, warts and all, with no accretions. When you play sloops, or lucid plays with his gemgens and other innovations, or redditers use ruby mods, the net effect is to muddy the waters, a mod-imposed babel on an a fractured and small playerbase
I would hate to have it on my conscience when I invariably won that it wasn't the actual game of Dominions 6 and accordingly I did not rise as the new pantokrator
(especially when playing as a weaker nation like eriu, winning with buffs feels like it cheapens the experience. Cheapening, or diluting, is exactly the problem- setting aside how competent the people making the balance changes are, changes at all make it some mongrelized aftermarket nondominions.)
>>531580354The fundamental philosophy behind it that nothing can be allowed to have a weakness that would make a player feel sad. Giving shields to LA mari's commanders, or hats to hatless units, or armored robes to most wizards. Buffing everything and nerfing nothing. Filing all the rough edges off so that babbys don't get booboos.
>>53100463030 recruit anyfort Geomansers and some front line chaffe.
10 cast communion slave.
20 cast communion master.
20 communion masters cast Gifts from Heaven every turn from the backline while your troops are there to soakup enemy evocations and arrows and generally bodyblock people from charging your mages.
You now know how to play MA T'ien Chi.
In truth, they are very flexible and there are man other things you can do.
>>531583650maybe fucking illfraud shouldn't be so garbage at balance then
>>531584396>t. has never dealt with the flamewars that come from nerfs
I don't know how the f you're supposed to get good expansion with LA arco. Their stats, armor and weapons are just too mediocre. And their starting army is dire. Peltasts are useless, hoplites too slow, hypastists have good stats but crappy gear, apes have good stats but tiny bucklers suck against crossbows and their slow mapmove makes them hard to move and reinforce, companions have good stats but just not enough armor for LA cav, elephants take too long to mass a decent number with their 100 res cost and then go limpy, and the hearty boys... might be worth recruiting just for their veteran stats, though it'd be nice if they had 12's instead of 11's. On a test last night I ended up only clearing my cap circle by turn 12.
>With Dominions 6's long-delayed patch on the horizon, we're still waiting for the nature of the "stat fixes." I'm here with my guest, a self-declared understander, who
>Nothing means nothing!
>Noth..?
>Nothing means nothing, man!
>Nothing means nothing? What did he mean by this?
>I'm talking about all the way to the top, yeah. Unjustifiably in a position that I'd rather not be in. But the cream will rise to the top, ooh yeah. Vanilla has more to offer than sloopfriends think that its got, yeah, and let me tell you something right now, cards stacked against new nation releases, let me say it, yeah, say it loud to the "ill winter" devs, yeah, ill winter? swedish summer, that's right, a goddamned autist is not happy with your decision, yeah, no patches, slopped /domg/, but vanilla is the cream of the crop!
>Well, wait- wait a minute though, I've got to ask you very seriously, do you blame Kristoff, the tireless and hardworking dev of Illwinter Game Design for sloops comfy balance mod being the dominant settings for /domg/ games today?
>Yeah, I do, yeah. Modded accretions. No new nations! It was our moment of glory! Yeah, and now i'm living in a nightmare. And now, not only zemaitia must be released, but crannog ys as well!
>No balance, unbalanced, doesn't matter! I'm better than you are, yeah, and i'm talking about all the veterans in /domg/ and i'm talking about the discord cliques, crannog ys is on its way, and nothing's gonna stop it.
>You know, just out of curiosity, anon, and I certainly don't want to diminish your autistic obsession but i'm very curious. I haven't seen any actual statement from devs about new nations.
>Yeah, they're out of communication. Do they abandon the game for other projects? Yeah, nothing, zero, and vanilla's been, uh yeah, maligned from the top to the bottom because they can't handle the vanilla, the real game, the CREAM of the CROP made by illwinter, nobody does it better!
>>531583650No one cares about autistic purity else we'd play with vanilla shit map gen
>>531601048False equivocation. Custom maps have always been part of the vanilla experience.
i wish thematic pretenders were meta or at least the cool ones instead of some random wiznerd or magical park bench
>>531619145That's what sloop is for
>>531619145The "meta" is just what the average retard does, and the average retard is risk-averse. I will never take a magic street light or a size 3 prison bitch on a nation without H3, because my goal isn't to reach some research level and do a reddit shennagin, it's to grab the thrones as soon as possible and win. Titans can do good work, so can monsters. If they get an affliction, so what? Even if they get killed, fine, now they're just on par with the magical playground equipment.
>>531622808>oh no my tendie got an owwie, now i cant play anymore, please save me sloopy-woopy
Does unholy damage from blood bless work on undead?
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Is Arcande Command ever a good idea?
>>531634794Yes, it's very good for LA Phlegra so that priests can help move Iron Guard around.
>>531634794yes when i have one bless point left over I dont know what to do with and I know I will be using lots of summons
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>>531581093that was done before unicorn knights were sacred, newfagchama
I dislike the layer system quite a lot.
I have barely interacted with it since dom6 was released. This is the first time I have actively gone looking for a cave. There is one entrance on the other side of the god damn map.
>>531646671Small caves is the only one that doesn't get bullshit.
>>531646671I think it's okay, but some random gen maps have way too many cave entrances beside one another.
>>531601341Dom 6 didn't ship with any premade maps :^)
>>531650759dombooru down?
>>531656292did not mean to reply
>>531656292It's up from what i see, just slow
>poorlobby about to get really fun
>retard host set the cataclysm to turn 75 on an 11 throne map
>>531670354Most games are decided by the end of year 5 anyways
>>531671473Yes but I want to see my and my enemies lategame units
>>531672110Like what? The samey golem/wraith lord thugs?
>>531684968The rus line of nations has the most variety.
>>531623541>If they get an affliction, so what?
How do I win with EA Agartha
>>531622808the fuck is sloop i never posted here before
>>531693370It is definitely a nation to play through in testing before you really give it a go, because of the strengths and weaknesses. Your basic fighting units have high hp but are just bad at attack and defense, and they are amphibious but they just end up worse in actual water. Consider the national summons, and putting a Magic Command into it, so that your sacred commanders can order them around with better morale and leadership than your mages. I have seen a lot of EAgarthans go hard on Reinvigoration with the idea being to just mass up on the mind worms, and it is pretty hard to fight against truth be told, but that is just one strategy out of modern EAgartha. Early on you will be leveraging the mass of your troops against whatever weakest indie province is around you and you definitely want to snowball your progress so if you need to take a turn to build up enough troops to easily take a province to get it going, well, you might just have to do that. Their sacred troops are really chunky and have pretty good armor and a sacred weapon I think so you can lean on that as much as you want
Dom6 Mod Inspector makes it easy to look these spells up but there is no other way but to try them out and understand that EAgartha gets to summon mini-Elementals to hang out at Conjuration 3 but they require a Magical Commanding handler. Umbrals and Penumbrals are also worth considering, but always remember that your access to E3 can let you give really good spell bonuses to your fat but mediocre normal recruits, along with your better units. Always be using that high Earth magic access
>>531622808Sloop is pretty tame with pretender balancing. There's that mod we used a few times that went pretty bonkers on pretender balance but it was pretty bloated.
Do coastal provinces count for sea capital's cap cricles?
>>531724643No, resources do not transfer between sea and land.
I'm returning to dominions after 2 years. Has anything changed?
>>531727040I also see that almost all of the games are now using Sloop's, has it become really good?
>>531727040There's a new magic path that's pretty cool, horses are separate units now and the community is dead.
Is there a list of which nation prefers which terrain type for their cap or does it not matter?
>>531727297>the community is dead/domg/ is suffering because the 4chan mod splitting an already small community in half.
Discord however still has new games pop-up daily because everyone just plays vanilla unless you're a WH autist.
>>531727384What you start in is (as far as I know) based on your initial magic site. ie; machaka always starts in a forest, c'tis in a swamp, agartha underground cave, etc
>>531727996>in halfwas sloopschizo's plan to reproduce by mitosis until he made up enough of domg to split the playerbase? truly the Malakal of small time lolcows
>making map
>change one terrain
>every single terrain fucking resets to plains
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Are kokytos and the like set maps or do you have to make them?
>>53164323012 PRETENDERS LET'S GO
>>531727996Dominions is in a content drought overall
>>531643230Wait!!!! Up the global and merc count at least!!!!
>>531727996>/domg/ is suffering because the 4chan mod splitting an already small community in half.>Discord however still has new games pop-up daily because everyone just plays vanilla unless you're a WH autist.God damn you discord faggots never quit, please put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger you worthless pile of gutter trash
>>531727996/domg/ is the only place that has enforced anonymous diplomacy which has a massive appeal compared to backdoor deals you see in forums and chat clients
>>531727996>Discord however still has new games pop-up daily because everyone just plays vanilla unless you're a WH autist.I hoped to find a game anywhere but discord, but it seems I have no choice if I want to play REAL Dominions.
>>531740496My discord exclusively plays sloops.
>implying this community doesn't have enough discord
>You don't get it guys, this game is stale and doesn't get played any more because we don't play vanilla enough
>>531739264>more than 6 months since the next nation was leaked, and it's a another total reskin nationHeartbound's getting released before we get three more nations
>13 people joined
wtf okay I gotta remake the map now lmao
>>531744493How's it a remake nation? It's fairly unique from what we heard
>>531748491>Atlantis>R'lyeh>Jomon>Agartha>Xibalba>LemuriaThe fish bowl is going to feel like a fucking can of sardines
>>531748491I hope it's a good custom map with cool indies and sites
>>531749668You can make custom independents?
>>531748736>It's fairly unique from what we heardguess what, 'we' heard wrong, stupid poop head!!! You stink!!
>>531749764Yeah just select a province number in the .map file and modify it. Here's an example. This sets the indendent province defenders of province #34 as a high priest of c'tis, a sauromancer with a skull staff, 15 falchioneers, and 10 serpent dancers.
#land 34
#commander 160
#commander 161
#additem "Skull Staff"
#units 15 504
#units 10 783
>>531749764Set difficulty to 99999999999999 and let's find out
Is there a way to lock in the players we got now for Vanilla on blitz without starting it? I'm gonna take a couple hours and add unique indies and shit and don't want more retards showing up.
>>531754243More reasons to be glad I didnt join this game
>>531754615Would you go back into the cuck corner and let the real men talk?
>>531754243You can start the game with a big I'M GONNA RESTART IN 2 HOURS message and then restart in two hours with the new stuff.
Some retard will probably not notice, play his first turn, and then start staling when you reset the game, though.
>>531754243least retarded sloptard game
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ES7ueI7p0
>>531757912>black servantBasedmin
>>531750716So something like
#land 27
#setland 27
#poptype 43
#commander 103
#additem 403
#commander 103
#commander 103
#units 20 522
#commander 156
#units 120 357
#commander 156
#units 70 288
Would add a bunch of water wizards, some cave drakes amazons and heavy crossbowmen?
>>531758429if you modify indie provinces with #setland it just adds whatever defenders you set to the one the game generates. Use either just #land or #setland
Unfortunately the auto generated defenders ARE NOT the poptype for whatever reason. Poptype only matters for when you conquer the province.
But besides that, yeah what you wrote looks alright. Just be sure NOT to open the .map file in the map editor or it'll delete all the custom indies for whatever reason
>be in five games>they all end or I get wrecked out of them within the last five days>>531758429START IT
GIVE IT TO US RAW AND WRIGGLING
>>531758429Can't assign by item ID it has to be the item name for some reason
3 unique throne armies down 10 to go, eta 1 hour or so
>>531764539Add some rarity 4 unique sites too like factory, sun beneath, mountain of power, etc
>>531765331So the format for that would be
#feature "The Shadow Furnace" /| 1
?
>>531765837It's
#knownfeature "The Shadow Furnace"
Or
#knownfeature 797
If you want it non hidden
#feature
If you want it hidden
OK I did 10 out of 13 now I'm gonna test and see if they're broken and if not we're starting.
>>531776318>doesn't have irl luck 3ngmi
>>531767528Gsg is dead and gone
>>531783814is that where these retards came from? Would explain a lot
i'm a vanilla enjoyer and i'm no immigrant, i've been here for a decade
>>531791547>dying before zemaitia's release
New thread? and when will game start
Diarrheamin, if you're here would it be possible to get a 30 minute extension?
>>531796868Much appreciated
>>531748736It's a reskin nation because its entire roster are existing units from other nations. They'll hopefully have some slight differences in detail, but no new silhouettes and designs.
>>531727297Glamor fucking sucks
People are really eager to play eh? Just 4 hours and it's turn 2
>>531801271that's utterly unacceptable, time for a 72hr extension