>>63988327
None of the italians use soft metal lol. They are so soft they made a 44mag toggle link 1873. Or maybe their baby rolling block that weighs 4.5lbs in 45-70. Yup you are right, its super soft metal!

Lol, you continually miss what the OP asked and keep giving shit advice and spouting off well documented and disproven myths. Again, Miroku makes good guns. But they have historically horrible mechanisms and no aftermarket support.

>>63988458
I always forget about the Uberti USA 1886 Hunter Lite. But I also am not a big fan of Uberti USA. But beyond that single model buttons mags arent offered, and theres no 3/4 mags. Got any links for rifles with the shotgun butt? The standard Uberti USA 86 comes with one but beyond that all the other "shotgun butts" are really just rubber padded butt stocks.

I would pay good money (double) if Cimarron offered special order options on their guns. Start with a basic rifle and option it how you want to. Maybe Ill call up Greg and see if theres any possibility of somerhing like that. I need to call him about a buntline in 357mag anyways.

Pic semi rel, 1899 as seen above and 1895 first year 30-30 take down 3 leaf action express sight