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7/23/2025, 5:38:40 PM
>>64019955
Israel came out ahead and it's a big W for Bibi in Israel. Trump joining in was also so popular they had his image up at Tel Aviv Pride (only in Israel...). Perhaps the most important thing is that the U.S. and Israel teamed up together in a military strike directly for the first time. That had never happened before. People tend to focus on the strictly Clancy-chat military side of things, and don't take in the bigger picture.
>>64020044
Yeah. I'm not Israeli, but Israel is fairly leaky (in a "word gets out on the street" kind of way), and the word is that some military bases got hit, but I dunno how much damage there was. I doubt it was very much. But I remember watching the livestreams of the missile barrages coming in and seeing what looked like ground impacts off in the distance, which we'd never hear about.
>>64020509
Iran is now trying to co-opt Persian nationalism. That used to be a very un-IRI thing. It was something exiled monarchists would tap into, while the clerics have their own revolutionary pan-Islamic ideology. You can make an analogy to the USSR or China modifying communism while rehabilitating traditional Russian or Chinese historical figures as a way of trying to stabilize it, and also cope with some weaknesses in the ideology to motivate people. There are pics out there of these new billboards up in Tehran with images of ancient Persian kings shooting arrows.
>>64020531
There's a lot of cope because Iran did NOT want to get bombed. The fact that it happened at all is a problem. But Iran played the cards it had. Their basic strategy was to deplete Israeli interceptors to force Israel to rely more on the U.S. to back them up, because Israel doesn't produce enough of the interceptors on their own. This in turn makes Israel more subject to American pressure. Iran can't actually stop Israel from flying over Iran virtually unmolested, so their strategy was to hold out until the U.S. decided "okay that's enough" and rang the bell.
Israel came out ahead and it's a big W for Bibi in Israel. Trump joining in was also so popular they had his image up at Tel Aviv Pride (only in Israel...). Perhaps the most important thing is that the U.S. and Israel teamed up together in a military strike directly for the first time. That had never happened before. People tend to focus on the strictly Clancy-chat military side of things, and don't take in the bigger picture.
>>64020044
Yeah. I'm not Israeli, but Israel is fairly leaky (in a "word gets out on the street" kind of way), and the word is that some military bases got hit, but I dunno how much damage there was. I doubt it was very much. But I remember watching the livestreams of the missile barrages coming in and seeing what looked like ground impacts off in the distance, which we'd never hear about.
>>64020509
Iran is now trying to co-opt Persian nationalism. That used to be a very un-IRI thing. It was something exiled monarchists would tap into, while the clerics have their own revolutionary pan-Islamic ideology. You can make an analogy to the USSR or China modifying communism while rehabilitating traditional Russian or Chinese historical figures as a way of trying to stabilize it, and also cope with some weaknesses in the ideology to motivate people. There are pics out there of these new billboards up in Tehran with images of ancient Persian kings shooting arrows.
>>64020531
There's a lot of cope because Iran did NOT want to get bombed. The fact that it happened at all is a problem. But Iran played the cards it had. Their basic strategy was to deplete Israeli interceptors to force Israel to rely more on the U.S. to back them up, because Israel doesn't produce enough of the interceptors on their own. This in turn makes Israel more subject to American pressure. Iran can't actually stop Israel from flying over Iran virtually unmolested, so their strategy was to hold out until the U.S. decided "okay that's enough" and rang the bell.
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