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I didn't really mean to attack RDR so much as point at it, although I was attacking their handling of the naturalist job that shit was stupid as fuck. What I meant to say was that it excels because the gameplay loop is a passionate execution of the unique idea. I haven't played the batman game you're referring to but the scanner is just another part of the 'gameplay'. I understand you don't like it but it's just another layer in the gameplay loop that has you constantly doing things even while walking around 'doing nothing'. I was pointing at RDR because it's a great movie game that has a relatively simple gameplay loop that feels fun. I don't think i'd have enjoyed DS if it was some open world sloppa that didn't require all the walking simulator stuff. Ubisoft hubs are a product of the market, you can hate it but as they say 'it just werks', we could say World of Warcraft zones are ubisoft hubs if you want. Very nitpicky and here you are also pointing at things in other games as a reference to DS or what DS did 'wrong', Kojimbo literally has a little tekken style fight in the final boss fight and there's that webm of him talking about trying to make the game a very video-game referenced game