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7/10/2025, 9:00:40 PM
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Wrong retard.
The actual Manchu population is far SMALLER than 10 million, the reason "Manchus" are 10 million now is because Han bannermen (Hanjun baqi or ujen coohai) and Han bondservants (baoyi or booi aha) and state bondservants (sinjeku) along with Mongol bannermen get to classifiy themselves as Manchu.
It's the exact opposite of what the dumbass claimed-there are actually millions of Han under the Manchu clasification, not Manchu under the Han classification.
It has nothing to do with who retained Manchu surnames. Plenty of Manchu people who adopted Han surnames like Jin (Aisin Gioro), Wang, Zhao (Irgen Gioro) are under the Manchu classification now.
There were only 5 million Eight Bannermen when the Qing dynasty ended and only a fraction of them were Manchu.
The Eight banners lived in the walled off Inner city of Beijing and in the walled off banner quarters of other cities.
The average Manchu bannerman, if he was in contact with Han, only interacted with Han bannermen and Han bomdservants and was extremely alienated and disconnected from non-Banner Han civilians, hence why Manchus were only able to speak Beijing Mamdarin and completely unable to comprehend the local speech of Ham civilians around their quarters like Xi'an Mandarin, Cantonese, Sichuan Mandarin or Mindong.
That's why Han people were able to slaughter Manchis with a shibboleth test during the Xinhai revolution in Wuhan and other places asking them to pronounce numbers like six six six since they inoy knew Beijing Mandarin. Manchu women also didn't bind their feet at all and wore the liangbatou headress and different clothes from Han women.
Wrong retard.
The actual Manchu population is far SMALLER than 10 million, the reason "Manchus" are 10 million now is because Han bannermen (Hanjun baqi or ujen coohai) and Han bondservants (baoyi or booi aha) and state bondservants (sinjeku) along with Mongol bannermen get to classifiy themselves as Manchu.
It's the exact opposite of what the dumbass claimed-there are actually millions of Han under the Manchu clasification, not Manchu under the Han classification.
It has nothing to do with who retained Manchu surnames. Plenty of Manchu people who adopted Han surnames like Jin (Aisin Gioro), Wang, Zhao (Irgen Gioro) are under the Manchu classification now.
There were only 5 million Eight Bannermen when the Qing dynasty ended and only a fraction of them were Manchu.
The Eight banners lived in the walled off Inner city of Beijing and in the walled off banner quarters of other cities.
The average Manchu bannerman, if he was in contact with Han, only interacted with Han bannermen and Han bomdservants and was extremely alienated and disconnected from non-Banner Han civilians, hence why Manchus were only able to speak Beijing Mamdarin and completely unable to comprehend the local speech of Ham civilians around their quarters like Xi'an Mandarin, Cantonese, Sichuan Mandarin or Mindong.
That's why Han people were able to slaughter Manchis with a shibboleth test during the Xinhai revolution in Wuhan and other places asking them to pronounce numbers like six six six since they inoy knew Beijing Mandarin. Manchu women also didn't bind their feet at all and wore the liangbatou headress and different clothes from Han women.
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