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this interview
https://youtu.be/Q3r5uAkDqh4?si=mldEOICXepnWZWZ3

she mentions Carman like he is some ftm troon, dragking or something... Carman is actually just a regular Christian rock star dude. I even asked ChatGPT / Grok and yeah he is a regular dude. Maybe Hayley was tripping on meztasepine, weed vape or something and had no idea what she was saying at that moment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carman_(singer)