>>40031720
>Not opposed if the person is clean, but ultimately it's more of an emotional starvation I'm struggling with
>Pretty much
my sarcasm came out a bit thick there, but you got what I meant later xd

>I grew up traditionally masculine
>That's not what I have an issue with
when I talk about male stereotypes, it comes with the thick expectations of men as well, there's nothing wrong with being a guy, but then the people who aren't guys lump you in with the people they see in the same category, and they don't understand the depths of your person and immediatly write you off, that's the male stereotypes I'm talking about in this situation, the negatives immediatly tagged onto straight dudes

>All input is welcome
>>40031775
there he is <_<

>cans of twisted tea
idk what that tastes like, but it looks fruity on the site so I approve

>I don't blame them if they are nervous or on edge
>that isn't the vibe I've gotten from them
>they are offended
so the hard part of this in your position is understanding their position when you've never been there, and you're not to blame for that, cos like I mentioned, the gender war is weirdly rising, and men are told that the women are just being rude if they get turned down, and the men can't understand the hassle of getting approached like 10+ times in one night, or god forbid you open a dating app and get spammed with hundreds of responses xd
>Women don't understand that men don't get social interactions unless we initiate
you're right but also the above where it's also hard from the womens pov too
on that note, trying to find a long term gf at a club might be why you're getting this vibe from women, they're at the club looking for a single night, whereas you sound like you're wanting an actual connection, the goals aren't aligned from the start which wont help your feelings when they reject you
and even if you can get what I'm saying, and you get there position here, I would also expect your heart to still be mad at them