Seriously, I must be missing something here. $10k for a frenchie vs $70k for an American, and the latter will bog you in exactly the same way 19/20 times. I personally know several people who have seen one french surgeon in particular and all have been satisfied with the results. I can vouch for him too, he's taken some incredible cavehons and made them look like mildly pretty natural passoids. Are the people going to Mardi and others retarded? Hoping to be that 1/20?