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6/13/2025, 11:49:09 PM
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>>279630963
>they do the traditional “your efforts and determination to get the water have made you stronger”
It's bad enough they completely subverts this. But for me, this is still the thing that makes me the maddest about DB. The beginning of the end. I think the on the spot power creep and plot devices around Namek can get kind of egregious. But something about Ten Shin Han being shown killing himself learning the mafuba, with real training and effort, only for Goku to drink a super potion water which we are told hurts a lot but will make him super strong... something about that is absolutely cheap and dishonest to me. If Dragon Ball ever was about training and growing stronger, it completely spits on it. Just awful.
>>279630963
>they do the traditional “your efforts and determination to get the water have made you stronger”
It's bad enough they completely subverts this. But for me, this is still the thing that makes me the maddest about DB. The beginning of the end. I think the on the spot power creep and plot devices around Namek can get kind of egregious. But something about Ten Shin Han being shown killing himself learning the mafuba, with real training and effort, only for Goku to drink a super potion water which we are told hurts a lot but will make him super strong... something about that is absolutely cheap and dishonest to me. If Dragon Ball ever was about training and growing stronger, it completely spits on it. Just awful.
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