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7/14/2025, 5:49:38 AM
>>24546586
>Was Dostoyevsky a fascist?
Were the Brothers Grimm Nazis
>>24548108
>But anyway, it seems to be an actual fact, that clever yet corrupt elements of Russia’s ruling elite class and their intelligence agencies have taken on a policy of looking to and trying to infiltrate and persuade both dissident leftist AND rightist elements of the West to get them to support Russia.
They do. I think part of the way they do that by having cutouts working for them who pick up various causes, and then they'll also mix in pro-Russia stuff into the stream. This does work to some extent but it can also backfire because of how cynical and contradictory it is, and also how it runs into conflict (sooner or later) with the reality of Russian policy. Like getting involved in the Palestinian cause is one example and introducing pro-Russian content into that flow, but Russia has reasonably friendly relations with Israel. Or just making predictions that turn out to be totally wrong, which undermines credibility.
I'd add that I don't think they're the only ones who do this. I don't like the Russian government, but I think this sort of thing is pretty common, such as British or American agencies trying to hook into ways to get leftists or rightists to support their interests through various forms of messaging, or get them to form some contradictory coalition. Or how it's done in party politics.
>>24548182
>We shouldn't want a world where countries go around initiating wars of conquest and then threatening to nuke anyone who tries to stop them, which Russia does approximately every 5 minutes.
It's a bipolar and schizo place. There's a military chauvinism in Russia that's very strong and longstanding. It's kind of a cope for living in a poorer and less organized society relative to the Europeans and Japanese and they can glory in that. That side gives me vibes that's like Night of the Living Dead. It's a zombified mentaltiy set to clinky 1970s-style chord progression:
https://youtu.be/c1kdJh4rI9Q
There's also another side that's like the literati, intelligentsia:
https://youtu.be/ylYv1WmqJCQ
>Was Dostoyevsky a fascist?
Were the Brothers Grimm Nazis
>>24548108
>But anyway, it seems to be an actual fact, that clever yet corrupt elements of Russia’s ruling elite class and their intelligence agencies have taken on a policy of looking to and trying to infiltrate and persuade both dissident leftist AND rightist elements of the West to get them to support Russia.
They do. I think part of the way they do that by having cutouts working for them who pick up various causes, and then they'll also mix in pro-Russia stuff into the stream. This does work to some extent but it can also backfire because of how cynical and contradictory it is, and also how it runs into conflict (sooner or later) with the reality of Russian policy. Like getting involved in the Palestinian cause is one example and introducing pro-Russian content into that flow, but Russia has reasonably friendly relations with Israel. Or just making predictions that turn out to be totally wrong, which undermines credibility.
I'd add that I don't think they're the only ones who do this. I don't like the Russian government, but I think this sort of thing is pretty common, such as British or American agencies trying to hook into ways to get leftists or rightists to support their interests through various forms of messaging, or get them to form some contradictory coalition. Or how it's done in party politics.
>>24548182
>We shouldn't want a world where countries go around initiating wars of conquest and then threatening to nuke anyone who tries to stop them, which Russia does approximately every 5 minutes.
It's a bipolar and schizo place. There's a military chauvinism in Russia that's very strong and longstanding. It's kind of a cope for living in a poorer and less organized society relative to the Europeans and Japanese and they can glory in that. That side gives me vibes that's like Night of the Living Dead. It's a zombified mentaltiy set to clinky 1970s-style chord progression:
https://youtu.be/c1kdJh4rI9Q
There's also another side that's like the literati, intelligentsia:
https://youtu.be/ylYv1WmqJCQ
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