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7/26/2025, 7:31:49 PM
>>102757553
20-40k per year is what I think they should make. You can stream and have a real job, or a part time job, or just stream and that should cover basic living requirements.
Right now most people watch and donate to a small percentage of streamers. It will take a shift in viewer and platform culture for the donations to start spreading out more.
Right now platforms are creating mega streamers by funneling viewers into maximum retention streams.
Could it be that smaller streamers simply aren't good enough to retain viewers? I think the many small 2view gems prove that quality alone isn't being rewarded by the algorithm.
More streamers could make an effort to "raid" smaller channels. Corpos use this to their advantage, Indies do this in a way that is more in line with creating this shift. The most successful streamers tend to want to see noobs succeed like themselves, the fact that they take in such a disproportionate share of the revenue only fuels this.
>>102756497
The dark side of this, the left hand path so to speak, is realizing that streaming is a lucrative business and therefore for every positive influencer there are at least twice as many "negative crabs": the type who run disinfo campaigns against rival corps for example.
In this way the vtuber sphere is a microcosm of the macro influencer - streamer - propagandist economy, complete with all blackmail, sabotage, and big capital interests.
How long into North Korea sponsors their own vtuber company? Is Kim Jong-un the next Yagoo? Who are the Mossad honeypots? follow the lemons... Nimi's choice to write this tweet, while not the first time this has happened in western vtubing, is not even the first "ex-holo" marriage drama, but it is the most public divorce from the idol cultural roots that started the phenomenon.
This marks the shift from Japanese cultural influence to Western values, and with that comes public awareness that "idols" in the West aren't immune to corruption.
20-40k per year is what I think they should make. You can stream and have a real job, or a part time job, or just stream and that should cover basic living requirements.
Right now most people watch and donate to a small percentage of streamers. It will take a shift in viewer and platform culture for the donations to start spreading out more.
Right now platforms are creating mega streamers by funneling viewers into maximum retention streams.
Could it be that smaller streamers simply aren't good enough to retain viewers? I think the many small 2view gems prove that quality alone isn't being rewarded by the algorithm.
More streamers could make an effort to "raid" smaller channels. Corpos use this to their advantage, Indies do this in a way that is more in line with creating this shift. The most successful streamers tend to want to see noobs succeed like themselves, the fact that they take in such a disproportionate share of the revenue only fuels this.
>>102756497
The dark side of this, the left hand path so to speak, is realizing that streaming is a lucrative business and therefore for every positive influencer there are at least twice as many "negative crabs": the type who run disinfo campaigns against rival corps for example.
In this way the vtuber sphere is a microcosm of the macro influencer - streamer - propagandist economy, complete with all blackmail, sabotage, and big capital interests.
How long into North Korea sponsors their own vtuber company? Is Kim Jong-un the next Yagoo? Who are the Mossad honeypots? follow the lemons... Nimi's choice to write this tweet, while not the first time this has happened in western vtubing, is not even the first "ex-holo" marriage drama, but it is the most public divorce from the idol cultural roots that started the phenomenon.
This marks the shift from Japanese cultural influence to Western values, and with that comes public awareness that "idols" in the West aren't immune to corruption.
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