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6/29/2025, 1:43:22 AM
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The manual in the M5/6 is US only and they just copy pasted the one from the 550i and didn’t even mess with the gearing. As a result it’s very awkwardly geared and in BMW fashion the 550i is a softer luxury business man car and the clutch is therefore super mushy and slotting the lever is mushy. It’s just not that good at all.
The SMGIII: it’s a manual box with the robot shifter attached. The pump has carbon forks and they wear and fail. It’s not crazy expensive $1500k or something. The clutch job is like $3k. The M logic shift computer is ok. Not as good as Audi but as good as Porsche. It has 6-7 settings so you’ll find one you like. For driving around it’s ok. It feels like some one shifting a manual box. The computer actually does better if you lift the gas as you shift akd it takes over for the blip. If you learn this it is very smooth. If you leave it in automatic it’s never smoother than a manual shift from a human. It actually actuates the shift faster than a DCT or ZF8 but the computer spends to much time thinking over inputs and what to do so in practice there is some lag between paddle input and the shift occurring. The gearbox is geared perfectly for the 8.2k redline V10. That part of it is a pleasure to drive. It happens to be geared to hit 200 on the dottinger hohe. I know we won’t ever be there in the US but fun fact. On a track it’s a great box to use. Gearing is excellent it shifts fast and hard and there’s a reason bmw keeps emulating it with the ZF8, it’s a very analogue satisfying feel. In traffic crawling though it’s bad. It hiccups and does weird shit. It’s better than II by a million years. It’s the same story with Ferrari and Audi and Lambo versions. Just not really a good thing for traffic. You can pull both paddles for 15 seconds and recalibrate the clutch and that helps.
So what do i think?
>>28485514
The manual in the M5/6 is US only and they just copy pasted the one from the 550i and didn’t even mess with the gearing. As a result it’s very awkwardly geared and in BMW fashion the 550i is a softer luxury business man car and the clutch is therefore super mushy and slotting the lever is mushy. It’s just not that good at all.
The SMGIII: it’s a manual box with the robot shifter attached. The pump has carbon forks and they wear and fail. It’s not crazy expensive $1500k or something. The clutch job is like $3k. The M logic shift computer is ok. Not as good as Audi but as good as Porsche. It has 6-7 settings so you’ll find one you like. For driving around it’s ok. It feels like some one shifting a manual box. The computer actually does better if you lift the gas as you shift akd it takes over for the blip. If you learn this it is very smooth. If you leave it in automatic it’s never smoother than a manual shift from a human. It actually actuates the shift faster than a DCT or ZF8 but the computer spends to much time thinking over inputs and what to do so in practice there is some lag between paddle input and the shift occurring. The gearbox is geared perfectly for the 8.2k redline V10. That part of it is a pleasure to drive. It happens to be geared to hit 200 on the dottinger hohe. I know we won’t ever be there in the US but fun fact. On a track it’s a great box to use. Gearing is excellent it shifts fast and hard and there’s a reason bmw keeps emulating it with the ZF8, it’s a very analogue satisfying feel. In traffic crawling though it’s bad. It hiccups and does weird shit. It’s better than II by a million years. It’s the same story with Ferrari and Audi and Lambo versions. Just not really a good thing for traffic. You can pull both paddles for 15 seconds and recalibrate the clutch and that helps.
So what do i think?
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