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6/29/2025, 1:59:04 AM
>>28485530
I made 70% profit when I sold mine after Covid. I think that 25k mile examples or less will do great. I think the rest will hold value well going forward. Not sure about going up just because they’re typically cars that get daily driven and it’s just not common for them to go up with high miles.
>>28485514
I forgot to mention the SMG skip gears up and down and you can treat it like a manual. Shift down twice for engine braking or skip to 7 for cruising or if on the highway you can drop to 5th for max torque very fast. That’s not something a ZF8 can do and it’s actually really annoying to be sitting there waiting for it to get to a gear that will let you overtake.
Given my choice I’d take a DCT over any other. I’d take a manual then a ZF8 or an SMG or R tronic or whatever you wish to call the automated manual.
My main point is that there are pros and cons to all of these and the SMG is bad in traffic and will need a new pump probably twice in 100k miles for $1-$3k. It comes with a 2 year warranty btw
If I was shopping for an E60/3 I honestly don’t know that I’d hold out for a manual and if I did it would be only because it will hold value better and not because it’s more fun to drive, and I’d be really annoyed if I had to pay extra for it vs the SMG because I know it’s not worth it.
I’d probably actually buy and SMG and find a shop to do the conversion and hang the clutch if I had to have a manual, bc the gearing is so much better. If money weren’t a concern I would drive the SMG until the clutch fails and buy the SEQ option.
I just know from experience this one is overhyped and about as bad of a manual as you can find where as the SMGIII was designed solely for this engine and car.
Hope that helps inform your choice. I don’t have a recommendation except that the manual will cost less to keep running and will hold value or grow in value eventually.
I made 70% profit when I sold mine after Covid. I think that 25k mile examples or less will do great. I think the rest will hold value well going forward. Not sure about going up just because they’re typically cars that get daily driven and it’s just not common for them to go up with high miles.
>>28485514
I forgot to mention the SMG skip gears up and down and you can treat it like a manual. Shift down twice for engine braking or skip to 7 for cruising or if on the highway you can drop to 5th for max torque very fast. That’s not something a ZF8 can do and it’s actually really annoying to be sitting there waiting for it to get to a gear that will let you overtake.
Given my choice I’d take a DCT over any other. I’d take a manual then a ZF8 or an SMG or R tronic or whatever you wish to call the automated manual.
My main point is that there are pros and cons to all of these and the SMG is bad in traffic and will need a new pump probably twice in 100k miles for $1-$3k. It comes with a 2 year warranty btw
If I was shopping for an E60/3 I honestly don’t know that I’d hold out for a manual and if I did it would be only because it will hold value better and not because it’s more fun to drive, and I’d be really annoyed if I had to pay extra for it vs the SMG because I know it’s not worth it.
I’d probably actually buy and SMG and find a shop to do the conversion and hang the clutch if I had to have a manual, bc the gearing is so much better. If money weren’t a concern I would drive the SMG until the clutch fails and buy the SEQ option.
I just know from experience this one is overhyped and about as bad of a manual as you can find where as the SMGIII was designed solely for this engine and car.
Hope that helps inform your choice. I don’t have a recommendation except that the manual will cost less to keep running and will hold value or grow in value eventually.
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