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6/19/2025, 7:47:00 AM
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>Flay's whole breakdown scene with Natarle doesn't really make much sense without her giving a shit about how the side she's helping is now attempting genocide.
Natarle's words to Fllay are, verbatim, "[this war] will end. Once every last enemy is destroyed". Maybe she's only considering destroying the enemy's armed forces, but I'd be hard pressed to think of any war that has ended under such a scenario, outside of barbaric campaigns in antiquity. Not even the Crusades were that brutal.
>In her slight defense, it's hard to think clearly with a gun to your head
Except Natarle was thinking clearly as to what was the imminent threat to Earth, Genesis. Azrael forced her to go with his orders at gunpoint, only to rationalize his logic afterwards.
>but she never actually returns to the Archangel.
Not physically, but morally she was on their side at the end.
>What's being argued is the notion that these reactions are enough to write the people of CE off.
I think they all contribute to an overall feeling of deep cynicism and little to no chance of reconciliation. We see nameless military forces moving to one "good" faction (only to serve as visible cannon fodder for explosions), but actual mutual understanding seems unreachable.
I'd bet that, even if PLANT was under a new administration, many on Earth would feel wary about Coordinators as a whole after Durandal attempted to impose the Destiny Plan on them. Even more so after the Foundation pukes appeared with even worse terms.
And ESPECIALLY after people on Earth managed to move from their discomfort and warmed over to Coordinators during the Minerva's tour. I imagine many would feel betrayed and cheated after realizing that it was all a trick to manipulate the populace into accepting the Destiny Plan. A Logos once over.
>Flay's whole breakdown scene with Natarle doesn't really make much sense without her giving a shit about how the side she's helping is now attempting genocide.
Natarle's words to Fllay are, verbatim, "[this war] will end. Once every last enemy is destroyed". Maybe she's only considering destroying the enemy's armed forces, but I'd be hard pressed to think of any war that has ended under such a scenario, outside of barbaric campaigns in antiquity. Not even the Crusades were that brutal.
>In her slight defense, it's hard to think clearly with a gun to your head
Except Natarle was thinking clearly as to what was the imminent threat to Earth, Genesis. Azrael forced her to go with his orders at gunpoint, only to rationalize his logic afterwards.
>but she never actually returns to the Archangel.
Not physically, but morally she was on their side at the end.
>What's being argued is the notion that these reactions are enough to write the people of CE off.
I think they all contribute to an overall feeling of deep cynicism and little to no chance of reconciliation. We see nameless military forces moving to one "good" faction (only to serve as visible cannon fodder for explosions), but actual mutual understanding seems unreachable.
I'd bet that, even if PLANT was under a new administration, many on Earth would feel wary about Coordinators as a whole after Durandal attempted to impose the Destiny Plan on them. Even more so after the Foundation pukes appeared with even worse terms.
And ESPECIALLY after people on Earth managed to move from their discomfort and warmed over to Coordinators during the Minerva's tour. I imagine many would feel betrayed and cheated after realizing that it was all a trick to manipulate the populace into accepting the Destiny Plan. A Logos once over.
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