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>+1 Init is good
Not only is that something they already have, it is something they have a surplus of, as they get +1 Init from charging anyways.
Phoenixes effectively got -1A in 2.0 it was better to not use Skill Unmatched at all; can't do that anymore, their spears lost 1 Str, their targets gained 1T,


Phoenixes effectively lost 1A, went from wounding on 2+ to wounding on 4+ (-1S on spears, +1T on termies), and their Murderous Strike dissapears outside the charge. That is on top of the nerfs to Sonic Lances (lost Pinning on the Pinning Edition).
It's not a sidegrade when it's worse in every metric - if they exist, regular Cataphractii Chosen would be better
>I don't think this is going to be a good weapon for a challenger, though
Or against terminators, because that (conditional) 2D bounces off their 2+ saves. That is, if they get the charge to begin with.