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7/23/2025, 4:52:25 PM
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>Mariner and Jennifer were both bad
It doesn't matter. I don't need toxic yuri fanfic slop in my comfort show just because some terminally online troons demanded it.
You don't understand why it's bad. It's bad because it's lazy pandering. The only reason it was "toxic" (not really, the relationship has so little screen time that you can interpret it in any fucking way you want) was because the writers didn't want to commit to the idea long-term. Same way how they made Garak and Bashir gay but hand-waved it away by saying it's an alternate universe. It's cynical. You want the good boy brownie points but you're too cowardly to commit to it.
The show is not only completely spineless and desperate to pander who people who don't give a shit about Star Trek, it's also cowardly because it doesn't actually want to commit to the representation it wants to be known for. You brought up Stamets and Culber; I genuinely believe they're better. You find them obnoxious because you hate gay men, but they're genuinely a more fleshed out pairing. They have a story, they have purpose in the show outside of their relationship. It's not just lazy pandering. It's a poorly written relationship but at least it's between actual real people with their own motivations and story purpose. Jennifer is a prop. She exists only to be gay for Mariner for three seasons and then she exists the show because she's not a real character. Just a vehicle for farming engagement.
>Mariner and Jennifer were both bad
It doesn't matter. I don't need toxic yuri fanfic slop in my comfort show just because some terminally online troons demanded it.
You don't understand why it's bad. It's bad because it's lazy pandering. The only reason it was "toxic" (not really, the relationship has so little screen time that you can interpret it in any fucking way you want) was because the writers didn't want to commit to the idea long-term. Same way how they made Garak and Bashir gay but hand-waved it away by saying it's an alternate universe. It's cynical. You want the good boy brownie points but you're too cowardly to commit to it.
The show is not only completely spineless and desperate to pander who people who don't give a shit about Star Trek, it's also cowardly because it doesn't actually want to commit to the representation it wants to be known for. You brought up Stamets and Culber; I genuinely believe they're better. You find them obnoxious because you hate gay men, but they're genuinely a more fleshed out pairing. They have a story, they have purpose in the show outside of their relationship. It's not just lazy pandering. It's a poorly written relationship but at least it's between actual real people with their own motivations and story purpose. Jennifer is a prop. She exists only to be gay for Mariner for three seasons and then she exists the show because she's not a real character. Just a vehicle for farming engagement.
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