Search Results
7/17/2025, 5:42:09 PM
6/29/2025, 1:29:58 PM
>>509025193
Swedish pro-Ukrainian here who's read a lot of pro-war Russian posters and think I can give a very fair broad take:
Obviously it's not going perfectly. Some will cope that actual wars are much harder than what people normally think, others that Russia always needs to ramp up. Both of these are fairly sure Russia will still win in the end. Russia has always been a bit scuffed but they pride themselves in that. They will see all the failures and just take it as them having the unique grit to sit through it and win.
Yes, many have died but it's not people who have been forced in a draft unlike Ukraine. Russia has a large pool of poor people who live outside the westernized areas so most regular Russian's aren't affected. So even if Russian losses are big the Ukrainian one is also up there and Russia knows it has a bigger pool of men to throw in.
All that considered I think they all also think they'd be worse off if Russia loses or Putin dies. Thinking otherwise and expressing it is also dangerous so why do it? There's a lot of trauma left from the shock therapy economic reforms when the west stood back and laughed as Russia got butt raped by oligarchs by following the Washington recommended reforms. I think this makes Russians think there's no comfortable norm to return to. It's them vs the west and only strength will help them stay over the surface.
Also worth saying there's lots of propaganda about how EU / USA and the west is collapsing which might contribute to an apathy about returning to a previous norm to appease them.
Swedish pro-Ukrainian here who's read a lot of pro-war Russian posters and think I can give a very fair broad take:
Obviously it's not going perfectly. Some will cope that actual wars are much harder than what people normally think, others that Russia always needs to ramp up. Both of these are fairly sure Russia will still win in the end. Russia has always been a bit scuffed but they pride themselves in that. They will see all the failures and just take it as them having the unique grit to sit through it and win.
Yes, many have died but it's not people who have been forced in a draft unlike Ukraine. Russia has a large pool of poor people who live outside the westernized areas so most regular Russian's aren't affected. So even if Russian losses are big the Ukrainian one is also up there and Russia knows it has a bigger pool of men to throw in.
All that considered I think they all also think they'd be worse off if Russia loses or Putin dies. Thinking otherwise and expressing it is also dangerous so why do it? There's a lot of trauma left from the shock therapy economic reforms when the west stood back and laughed as Russia got butt raped by oligarchs by following the Washington recommended reforms. I think this makes Russians think there's no comfortable norm to return to. It's them vs the west and only strength will help them stay over the surface.
Also worth saying there's lots of propaganda about how EU / USA and the west is collapsing which might contribute to an apathy about returning to a previous norm to appease them.
Page 1