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8/8/2025, 11:49:36 PM
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Clearly the Winterers are visitors, like Ultima. They are probably based off the Scions / Lucavi locked in the zodiac stones from the Ivalice lore. To winter = to pass a season in a place not the home of the winterer

Canonically, at some point in the lore, Hydaelyn had to materialize to defeat a visitor from another realm called Ultima. Also canonically, the auracites were originally created by these entities, with the heart of Sabik being one of them.

After Fandaniel betrayed the ascians and killed Zodiark, probably the ascian has turned coat and began helping these entities. There is no Hydaelyn / Zodiark to stop them anymore from taking over the shards.

Yet, if Hydaelyn defeated Altima, Hydaelyn can only sunder. So it is likely each remaining shard has a zodiac stone of Altima, and the incoming lore is about bringing Altima back now that the Source is vulnerable.