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7/6/2025, 9:49:13 AM
>>63944276
>Could you list these components? Because its not the powerpack, the drive train
Lying about things even wikipedia states in the article overview?
You completely disqualify yourself for discussion with this.
Notice how even here you can see that the koreans made a heavier engine than the german original from 1970's to hit the same power target ... they're really far behind.
Meanwhile modern MTU engines are 1/3rd the size, use half the power, and produce 130hp more lmao.
>So this is where i'm struggling to follow your train of thought.
Understandable, because:
>The K2's MT883 is the latest generation of MTU engines for tanks
No it isn't that would be the 890 series. Now the 893 which would be the suitable engine for an MBT hasn't been ordered by any customer YET, although it obviously will power the Leopard 3, the 892 does power the german Puma and has been doing so for years already.
The difference is the 892 is a 10 cylinder, the 893 is a 12 cylinder, but it's the same engine series.
There's a flyer (or was, MTU removes shit all the time) about the 6 cylinder, search for 890 engine material or "high power density" and read what you find.
These engines do 100hp/liter. This is the state of the art from ... well over 10 years ago.
MTU is obviously working on the next gen engines already.
Now carefully compare the weight of the korean copy and the 883 original, which is by now an engine 1.5 generations outdated and realise the weight is more in line with the 870 series.
>licence
Not unless MTU gave them a license for free, which they didn't, hence the lawsuit.
If they had a license they would have gotten an engineering package and their engine would be reliable and not 500kg overweight desu.
>>63944358
Idk whatever schizo you are on about, I am not that poster.
Everything i stated is trivially derived from even reading the basic wikipedia article and following the sources in it. It's nothing esoteric, conspiratorial or anything, plain obvious facts.
>Could you list these components? Because its not the powerpack, the drive train
Lying about things even wikipedia states in the article overview?
You completely disqualify yourself for discussion with this.
Notice how even here you can see that the koreans made a heavier engine than the german original from 1970's to hit the same power target ... they're really far behind.
Meanwhile modern MTU engines are 1/3rd the size, use half the power, and produce 130hp more lmao.
>So this is where i'm struggling to follow your train of thought.
Understandable, because:
>The K2's MT883 is the latest generation of MTU engines for tanks
No it isn't that would be the 890 series. Now the 893 which would be the suitable engine for an MBT hasn't been ordered by any customer YET, although it obviously will power the Leopard 3, the 892 does power the german Puma and has been doing so for years already.
The difference is the 892 is a 10 cylinder, the 893 is a 12 cylinder, but it's the same engine series.
There's a flyer (or was, MTU removes shit all the time) about the 6 cylinder, search for 890 engine material or "high power density" and read what you find.
These engines do 100hp/liter. This is the state of the art from ... well over 10 years ago.
MTU is obviously working on the next gen engines already.
Now carefully compare the weight of the korean copy and the 883 original, which is by now an engine 1.5 generations outdated and realise the weight is more in line with the 870 series.
>licence
Not unless MTU gave them a license for free, which they didn't, hence the lawsuit.
If they had a license they would have gotten an engineering package and their engine would be reliable and not 500kg overweight desu.
>>63944358
Idk whatever schizo you are on about, I am not that poster.
Everything i stated is trivially derived from even reading the basic wikipedia article and following the sources in it. It's nothing esoteric, conspiratorial or anything, plain obvious facts.
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