>>528724349
This is to say, while yes there are counters and methods to avoid these heroes' abilities, in effect the correct way to play is fundamentally boring, whereas exciting gameplay makes you lose. This causes a gameplay loop of farming, which will never be fun. Hitting NPC's that do no damage to you, but have large HP amounts, is a boring bullet sponge. Having nothing to do besides hitting boxes is not fun. I'm not so silly to think that Valve would actually remove all ultimates from the game, but something needs to click for Yoshi and have him realize that rehashing Dota2's afk farm patches were the most reviled among the playerbase. There have been bad patches in Dota before, but the ones people hated the most were farming patches.

There needs to be more things to do on the map; side objectives should pull people either away from lanes or into lanes. Heroes of the Storm did this incredibly well, where killing NPC's would result in them pushing, so there was an incentive to keep them alive/guard them whilst they would attack an enemy objective. Runes are interesting, but meh. Urns rarely happen because you're likely throwing the match 90% of the time.