I think I'm just going to stop playing until the patch, I can't take all these fucking crack-smoking platinum Zetterburns who only know how to dash dance and relentlessly spam safe options. Oh, completely whiffed my approach? No big deal, shine. Whiffed my tech chase? That's cool, shine. Finally hit something and don't know what to follow it up with? I'm thinking shine, or maybe a cheeky falling uair which has a hitbox that should have never seen the light of day. Whiffed my uair follow-up? Shine.

They should honestly just consider reworking the Fox / Wolf function in a game without L-canceling where wavedashing is as easy as buffering two inputs at the same time. It's just a fundamentally retarded design decision and no amount of minor nerfs are ever going to fix the fact that having a move that's active frame 2, combos into itself, activates the character's win condition, and can kill confirm with that win condition is retarded. The thing that stops Fox's shine from being the end-all-be-all of Melee is the execution barrier, which doesn't exist in RoA2. If they ever decide to add real recovery to moves, I hope the change absolutely rapes Zetterburn into an early grave where he promptly becomes a maggot farm.