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7/14/2025, 12:57:34 AM
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>I'm curious, I had heard once that Ishinomori tried pitching a Rider season similar to X-Files to Tsubaraya and that Kuuga working with cops was a remnant of this concept, was this made up
Ishinomori was talking Kamen Rider options with anyone who'd talk to him, Batman vs Kamen Rider was in the negotiations stage in the 90s for example.
As for Kuuga, Ishinomori had zero influence on it. He gave full carte blanche on "The new Kamen Rider" to Hayase and Nonaka not long after J's production ended. Due to J's nature theme, Hayase and Nonaka wanted to make their own nature-themed Kamen Rider named "Gaia." The issue is, right when they came up with that, they heard from someone at Tsuburaya through Nonaka's connections their next Ultraman was going by that name. Out of respect, they quietly shelved the property (though Hayase did use it for a creative property later when it wouldn't interfere with Ultraman) and moved onto Kamen Rider "XV" (Pronounced "Cross-Vee") and "Kawakami" which we know nothing about beyond names. It wasn't until then that they started working around different designs and came up with the beetle format and thus Ku(wa)ga(ta) was born. Even if Ishinomori wanted to influence the production, by the time they hit even "XV," Ishinomori was on his deathbed.
Before anyone makes assumptions, pic related is not XV or Kawakami, it's a different concept for an unrelated project called Kamen Rider U7. This set of concept art also includes "Kamen Rider Lady" and "Kamen Rider Leon." The context of these designs are vague, but nothing has established them as being concepts pre-or-post XV/Kawakami, though bits of U7's design do show up in a concept design in one of Kuuga's art books (specifically the uneven headcrest).
A lot of this used to be very common knowledge among Anglophonic toku fans, but the recent newer generations and the balkanization of information has resulted in a lot of it being forgotten or completely revised.
>I'm curious, I had heard once that Ishinomori tried pitching a Rider season similar to X-Files to Tsubaraya and that Kuuga working with cops was a remnant of this concept, was this made up
Ishinomori was talking Kamen Rider options with anyone who'd talk to him, Batman vs Kamen Rider was in the negotiations stage in the 90s for example.
As for Kuuga, Ishinomori had zero influence on it. He gave full carte blanche on "The new Kamen Rider" to Hayase and Nonaka not long after J's production ended. Due to J's nature theme, Hayase and Nonaka wanted to make their own nature-themed Kamen Rider named "Gaia." The issue is, right when they came up with that, they heard from someone at Tsuburaya through Nonaka's connections their next Ultraman was going by that name. Out of respect, they quietly shelved the property (though Hayase did use it for a creative property later when it wouldn't interfere with Ultraman) and moved onto Kamen Rider "XV" (Pronounced "Cross-Vee") and "Kawakami" which we know nothing about beyond names. It wasn't until then that they started working around different designs and came up with the beetle format and thus Ku(wa)ga(ta) was born. Even if Ishinomori wanted to influence the production, by the time they hit even "XV," Ishinomori was on his deathbed.
Before anyone makes assumptions, pic related is not XV or Kawakami, it's a different concept for an unrelated project called Kamen Rider U7. This set of concept art also includes "Kamen Rider Lady" and "Kamen Rider Leon." The context of these designs are vague, but nothing has established them as being concepts pre-or-post XV/Kawakami, though bits of U7's design do show up in a concept design in one of Kuuga's art books (specifically the uneven headcrest).
A lot of this used to be very common knowledge among Anglophonic toku fans, but the recent newer generations and the balkanization of information has resulted in a lot of it being forgotten or completely revised.
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