>TQ: I like the models and they are my favorite army to play in TWW3. By the time I actually have them painted they will have probably been nerfed 4 times over or we will be in 2nd ed.

Also a friend and I tried the renegade pack with my Dark Elves and his Lizardmen. We feel like it makes both armies a little more in-line with the 'core' factions.