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8/2/2025, 7:29:36 PM
>>96235149
>you can make a disordered charge without bonuses with a squad of WS4 3+ armor save despoiler or tactical troops who can't have a master sergeant and have no legion trait because they're dark angels and if you volley fire at all the enemy just removes the closest models while your 'ambush' is 5-6" away and then you fail the 1d6 inch charge and lose your entire shitty despoiler squad which is weak in melee anyway.
>Yeah, that's nowhere near as good as a legion trait like getting +20 attacks on that same despoiler squad instead, you retard.
Odds of succeeding a 5" charge with 2d6 drop lowest is 58%
Any unit that moves in your opponents movement phase is a valid target for this.
Getting to jump out of the bushes and threaten to catch a unit in combat at the beginning of the first turn while completely negating overwatch because YOU are the reacting player is stronger than several legion Traits. Especially since the only counterplay is refusing to move any shooting unit in your army on the first turn and just fucking, letting the DA cap all objectives.
Hell you don't even need to use despoilers, you could teleport tacticals onto objectives before your opponent gets to move and contest control during your opponents movement phase.
Would much rather have that than +1 combat resolution ngl.
>you can make a disordered charge without bonuses with a squad of WS4 3+ armor save despoiler or tactical troops who can't have a master sergeant and have no legion trait because they're dark angels and if you volley fire at all the enemy just removes the closest models while your 'ambush' is 5-6" away and then you fail the 1d6 inch charge and lose your entire shitty despoiler squad which is weak in melee anyway.
>Yeah, that's nowhere near as good as a legion trait like getting +20 attacks on that same despoiler squad instead, you retard.
Odds of succeeding a 5" charge with 2d6 drop lowest is 58%
Any unit that moves in your opponents movement phase is a valid target for this.
Getting to jump out of the bushes and threaten to catch a unit in combat at the beginning of the first turn while completely negating overwatch because YOU are the reacting player is stronger than several legion Traits. Especially since the only counterplay is refusing to move any shooting unit in your army on the first turn and just fucking, letting the DA cap all objectives.
Hell you don't even need to use despoilers, you could teleport tacticals onto objectives before your opponent gets to move and contest control during your opponents movement phase.
Would much rather have that than +1 combat resolution ngl.
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