>>533851637
>>533852031
No, it's still very possible that Umbra is old and predates everything in the arsenal.
>the initial wave of Warframes that went berserk and did whatever they wanted like Kullervo and Dagath
>they destroy these because they went berserk
>researches find out the recovered Tenno can control Warframes
>they start developing new Warframes (Umbra being the first of these, Ballas says to him he'll be a surrogate for the Tenno, Jade and Stalker are also probably around this point)
>Umbras were also failures and are destroyed
>THEN Ballas realizes maybe keeping their mind intact to torture them is a bad idea, makes only lobotomized frames from then on
>these are the regular frames you build + Primes
Umbra is still older than the frames we use in that sense.