>multiple people break down why black widow isn't good and has a bad kit, while also being worse than the alternatives
>black widow apologists plug their areas and keep going on about how amazing she is, while then resorting to logical fallacies instead

When people lay down actual facts about a hero, their kit and how they stack up with alternative heroes and your onmly response is to call them names or move goalposts to something else, you are admitting you cannot disprove it but are too insecure to accept you're wrong.
The only reason you convince yourself Black Widow isn't shit is so you can keep playing her, dragging teams down and then blame said teams because "black widow isn't bad and I didn't play poorly!".