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6/27/2025, 10:07:24 PM
>>17796401
>the idea of having a significant portion of your life handled by the state or the collective seems alien to the image of the american that one can formulate.
There's a very strong belief in DIY. Like DoorDash and all this exists here but I've literally never used it, someone delivering fast food to my door is weird to me, like feudal servants. I can go pick up my own goddamn food! I can carry my own bags! I don't need a driver. I have a car. I know how to drive.

You go to some countries, there is so much cheap labor, the professional-managerial class is used to having other people do everything for them. Thinking for yourself too. This can turn reactionary like with anti-vaxx schizos but the basic impulse to "do your own research" is a healthy one. I don't need some class of experts to tell me how to live, let alone some vanguard party of intellectuals. But our background was a bunch of yeoman farmers where you literally did their own research to survive.

>californians who openly bragged about their democratic membership or whatever
It's my understanding that European parties can have some kind of formal membership. The vast majority of voters are not formal members of parties of course, but in the U.S., a party is more of a ballot line and anyone can run as a D or R. It doesn't mean you'll necessarily get support if you're not in cahoots with others "in the party" but it's built a little different.

Unrelatedly, but I heard an anecdote about some Die Linke members paying a visit to the DSA and asking questions to learn from them to apply in Germany, like how DSA members would do door-to-door canvassing, and these Germans' experience with it was knocking on people's doors and being like "Hello are you a member of the precariat." Obviously the Germans would do that in the most brutally direct and autistic way. Their party did improve in the last election though and they're clearly trying to mimic the AOC types in America:
https://youtu.be/jaD4t-UN4E4