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6/14/2025, 1:35:32 AM
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>>279647086
I'm mostly talking about Frieza leaving Vegeta healing in that pod by himself to deliver that "Lose against a guy, win against a guy because you lost" moment that I find lame, and while he does get the balls, again, delegating it to the Ginyus whilst the situation is spiraling out of control with them because they ALSO decided to fold their arms and have a nice sporting competition like Vegeta did before them? Stuff starts being pretty transparent. It's far from the worst thing in the world, but it's where I start raising my eyebrows at how Toriyama handled this, and why I think making guys super duper strong ends up not mattering that much in the end. Most of the DB tropes people make fun of come from Namek for a reason.
>But in the context of reading Dragon Ball and taking it on its own terms, you should be able to suspend your attempts at hacking the system for a moment and accept that it's like that and there's no more hackery or powerups in sight.
>Read any Naruto chapter and you'll find tons of characters doing things far worse than Freeza when it comes to managing their situations
I do get this, don't get me wrong I do not think Dragon Ball or even Namek are a travesty or something but after how well the Saiyan saga handled its stakes, I think Namek is where my good will for DB erodes a little and stuff starts overstaying its welcome. The art is amazing but this is where the comic's penchant with transformations and cheap asspulls solidified itself, barring the part with the super magic water; plus we're on the fourth major villain in a row that starts proud and gets angrier as someone defies him, he gets his comeuppance yada yada... Frieza doesn't impress me that much. Neither does the Super Saiyan state. Yes there's much, much worse stuff to read, and I still love DB but Namek is the part where it starts being way more style than substance, specially after the rules for resurrecting people keep getting more lax, time and time again.
>>279647086
I'm mostly talking about Frieza leaving Vegeta healing in that pod by himself to deliver that "Lose against a guy, win against a guy because you lost" moment that I find lame, and while he does get the balls, again, delegating it to the Ginyus whilst the situation is spiraling out of control with them because they ALSO decided to fold their arms and have a nice sporting competition like Vegeta did before them? Stuff starts being pretty transparent. It's far from the worst thing in the world, but it's where I start raising my eyebrows at how Toriyama handled this, and why I think making guys super duper strong ends up not mattering that much in the end. Most of the DB tropes people make fun of come from Namek for a reason.
>But in the context of reading Dragon Ball and taking it on its own terms, you should be able to suspend your attempts at hacking the system for a moment and accept that it's like that and there's no more hackery or powerups in sight.
>Read any Naruto chapter and you'll find tons of characters doing things far worse than Freeza when it comes to managing their situations
I do get this, don't get me wrong I do not think Dragon Ball or even Namek are a travesty or something but after how well the Saiyan saga handled its stakes, I think Namek is where my good will for DB erodes a little and stuff starts overstaying its welcome. The art is amazing but this is where the comic's penchant with transformations and cheap asspulls solidified itself, barring the part with the super magic water; plus we're on the fourth major villain in a row that starts proud and gets angrier as someone defies him, he gets his comeuppance yada yada... Frieza doesn't impress me that much. Neither does the Super Saiyan state. Yes there's much, much worse stuff to read, and I still love DB but Namek is the part where it starts being way more style than substance, specially after the rules for resurrecting people keep getting more lax, time and time again.
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