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6/25/2025, 7:20:22 PM
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>Chipset lanes
What I mean is that the motherboard chipset usually has a handful of lanes separate from the CPU. Maybe this isn't the case with these Strix Point / Strix Halo options, but when I bought a X670E (or now the X870E, or B850 etc) there are usually certain PCI-E lanes that are predicated on the mobo itself. For instance if you look under SSD storage sometimes it shows a delineation between those M.2 slots that are handled by CPU lanes and those using the chipset lanes; I had to properly account for this when building the aforementioned system so that there wouldn't be any overlap taking bandwidth/lanes from others, like having my PCI-E x16 slot used for GPU drop down to x8 or even X4 if I just piled SSDs into the first/fastest lanes instead of putting one 5.0 drive into one M.2 (coming from CPU) and the dropped the other 4.0 drives into other M.2 (that used chipset lanes). Pic related for some of the breakdown, but yeah unless there's a mobile related or platform change, there are usually chipset lanes separate from the CPU.
>I would be pissed off if I had to buy the GPU module because integrated graphics were extremely weak.
I guess it depends on what "extremely weak" means, but that was the norm for ages that especially in dGPU capable laptops (ie gaming laptops) if they had an iGPU at all, it was for backup, basic primarily 2D usage or not very demanding 3D usage. The FW13 has one of those APU style better integrated solutions because its smaller and there's no dGPU options, whereas something like the FW16 obviously has the latter (if anything, I think they should have offered a better dGPU option in the past but certainly one now). Now maybe Framework can do what Valve did with the Steam Deck and get AMD to make a custom-ish version that has the 9950X3D + RDNA3.5 integrated with greater performance, but I can't imagine that many people are buying the 16 wanting less than dGPU but more than integrated?
>Chipset lanes
What I mean is that the motherboard chipset usually has a handful of lanes separate from the CPU. Maybe this isn't the case with these Strix Point / Strix Halo options, but when I bought a X670E (or now the X870E, or B850 etc) there are usually certain PCI-E lanes that are predicated on the mobo itself. For instance if you look under SSD storage sometimes it shows a delineation between those M.2 slots that are handled by CPU lanes and those using the chipset lanes; I had to properly account for this when building the aforementioned system so that there wouldn't be any overlap taking bandwidth/lanes from others, like having my PCI-E x16 slot used for GPU drop down to x8 or even X4 if I just piled SSDs into the first/fastest lanes instead of putting one 5.0 drive into one M.2 (coming from CPU) and the dropped the other 4.0 drives into other M.2 (that used chipset lanes). Pic related for some of the breakdown, but yeah unless there's a mobile related or platform change, there are usually chipset lanes separate from the CPU.
>I would be pissed off if I had to buy the GPU module because integrated graphics were extremely weak.
I guess it depends on what "extremely weak" means, but that was the norm for ages that especially in dGPU capable laptops (ie gaming laptops) if they had an iGPU at all, it was for backup, basic primarily 2D usage or not very demanding 3D usage. The FW13 has one of those APU style better integrated solutions because its smaller and there's no dGPU options, whereas something like the FW16 obviously has the latter (if anything, I think they should have offered a better dGPU option in the past but certainly one now). Now maybe Framework can do what Valve did with the Steam Deck and get AMD to make a custom-ish version that has the 9950X3D + RDNA3.5 integrated with greater performance, but I can't imagine that many people are buying the 16 wanting less than dGPU but more than integrated?
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