>>81524456
>It's straight from the mouth of Jung
It's your consciously stated pseudo-Nietzsche-Jungian reductionist model I'm referencing.
Unconsciously, you know and operate by actual Jung's pampered "suffering makes you stronger only if you subscribe to my model on how to obsessively force meaningfulness onto everything."
What is it, you need more suffering to freely allow yourself to be right?

>>81524684
>This is pretty reduced thinking, there are plenty of torments that will stunt or even impair your growth
Skill issue. If you have to forget that most of your corporeality is a chaotic soup of neurons trying to constantly readjust itself for interfacing with what empiricism and science can only ever see traces of - that's pure skill issue, volition issue, commitment issue.

>>81524727
>The ones who have never really suffered and the ones who haven't fully worked through their suffering yet.
Not insightful or constructive rebuttal, because that's practically anyone at all, and this only strengthens the initial point.

>>81524882
>The people who are opposed to the idea that suffering makes you stronger are the ones who've likely never suffered
I can just feel that you've never suffered, either. Do you think just cerebrally supporting a notion is ever enough?
>Just fucking read Jung or Nietzsche
You didn't read them enough if you recommend them with zeal. They're a Maya's red herring read. They're the factory dust tea bag manual in a world where you can drink tea steeped directly from leaves.