>this costs 15k used which will put someone into debt for a year on top of gas, maintenance and repairs

No wonder kids are saying fuck you to cars, this shit is retarded. Every car is an ugly fucking blob with no redeeming features that they NEED to survive, the roads are filled with retarded browns who will eventually wipe out your savings and jack up your insurance. Even luxury sports cars are made with fucking chink plastic interiors that click and snap and bend and squeek.