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7/14/2025, 3:52:28 AM
>>96083627
>(this is probably because you've got video game brain for invisibility mechanics)
I have common sense brain for invisibility mechanics. If you are invisible, you can't be seen. Period. The new hide rules shouldn't grant the invisible conditions, it should be its own condition "unseen" or "hidden".
>You stop being [hidden]
This isn't a term you can find in the glossary for 5.5e, it's meant to end the invisible condition but doesn't say that. They should either have stuck with natural language, or properly used their new key terms.
>immediately after any of the following occurs: you make a sound louder than a whisper, an enemy finds you, you make an attack roll, or you cast a spell with a Verbal component.
It says an enemy finds you, not that an enemy sees you. The search action exists so this is how an enemy would find you. RAW, you can walk right out in front of an enemy a la Skyrim, and you are not found. It also doesn't end on casts, saves, or damage, it ends on attack rolls. You can huck as many acid vials or subtle saves as you like and remain absolutely hidden because the rules were written so poorly.
>(this is probably because you've got video game brain for invisibility mechanics)
I have common sense brain for invisibility mechanics. If you are invisible, you can't be seen. Period. The new hide rules shouldn't grant the invisible conditions, it should be its own condition "unseen" or "hidden".
>You stop being [hidden]
This isn't a term you can find in the glossary for 5.5e, it's meant to end the invisible condition but doesn't say that. They should either have stuck with natural language, or properly used their new key terms.
>immediately after any of the following occurs: you make a sound louder than a whisper, an enemy finds you, you make an attack roll, or you cast a spell with a Verbal component.
It says an enemy finds you, not that an enemy sees you. The search action exists so this is how an enemy would find you. RAW, you can walk right out in front of an enemy a la Skyrim, and you are not found. It also doesn't end on casts, saves, or damage, it ends on attack rolls. You can huck as many acid vials or subtle saves as you like and remain absolutely hidden because the rules were written so poorly.
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