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7/20/2025, 10:22:53 AM
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Well sure, if you’re going back that far of course you’re going to have variations in themes of the genre, but what I’m talking about is shown in several of Lovecraft’s stories as well.
> Lovecraft himself fully and completely explained the broad strokes of his entire cosmology and how it works point-blank in Silver Key and not only was it fully understandable, but the Supreme Archetype (God) is depicted in such a way that it's shown to be essentially purely benevolent and devoted towards guiding lower beings like the races of man into enlightenment.
You’re going to have to point me in this direction of all of this. I assume you aren’t talking about Azathoth right? Because we know from his own genealogy that that’s the supreme deity of his mythos and it definitely isn’t described as being understandable or benevolent in anyway, the polar opposite in fact, where it, like I said, is beyond the human mind completely and is even called evil and such.
>Except humanity doesn't prevail.
Well, it did in the moment. It was a temporary victory, but yeah you have a point that Awakening still happens (which is apparently canon? I always thought that was dubious since I can’t find any sources on it) and what it implies is pretty in line with cosmic horror itself actually, it’s pretty much 1:1 with At the Mountains of Madness, and it does tie back in with the Markers only suffering minor setbacks just to bounce back again, so I guess it works out in the end
>Lovecraft himself never made it so every entity he'd made fit that mold.
Not every one of them, yes, but his most famous ones do tend to adhere to that theme.
Well sure, if you’re going back that far of course you’re going to have variations in themes of the genre, but what I’m talking about is shown in several of Lovecraft’s stories as well.
> Lovecraft himself fully and completely explained the broad strokes of his entire cosmology and how it works point-blank in Silver Key and not only was it fully understandable, but the Supreme Archetype (God) is depicted in such a way that it's shown to be essentially purely benevolent and devoted towards guiding lower beings like the races of man into enlightenment.
You’re going to have to point me in this direction of all of this. I assume you aren’t talking about Azathoth right? Because we know from his own genealogy that that’s the supreme deity of his mythos and it definitely isn’t described as being understandable or benevolent in anyway, the polar opposite in fact, where it, like I said, is beyond the human mind completely and is even called evil and such.
>Except humanity doesn't prevail.
Well, it did in the moment. It was a temporary victory, but yeah you have a point that Awakening still happens (which is apparently canon? I always thought that was dubious since I can’t find any sources on it) and what it implies is pretty in line with cosmic horror itself actually, it’s pretty much 1:1 with At the Mountains of Madness, and it does tie back in with the Markers only suffering minor setbacks just to bounce back again, so I guess it works out in the end
>Lovecraft himself never made it so every entity he'd made fit that mold.
Not every one of them, yes, but his most famous ones do tend to adhere to that theme.
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