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6/13/2025, 1:30:45 AM
Way too many posts about it to bother giving all of them a (you), but I'm seeing accusations thrown around of people being "40k secondaries" while the obsession with skulls (compared to previous usage) and überdeath are literally later imports from 40k.
I completely agree that Cathay is boring, but there's a difference between a fun setting with conflicts and edgy depression porn for guys that never got out of their faux-goth phase at high school. Fantasy generally didn't have stories about Childkiller McRape the Great Genocider going around the Empire killing 40% of its population every 6 months, at that point this setting becomes a completely ridiculous. Generally, if you create a setting in which killing yourself and your entire family is preferable over living one more day for the majority of the population then you stray into clown territory. Some serious mishaps by GW happened in the last few years culminating in the End Times slopfest, but let's not actually strive for that.
As a rule, instead of half the villages in the entirety of Middenland being completely rapegenocided every week, imagine the setting more as occasionally a peasant being lost to a local infestation of swamp trolls, or travelers and trading caravans being wiped off the map by the ocassional goblin or beastman band, with the town-wiping events being a big escalation that /yourdudes/ have to deal with (or alternatively, /yourdudes/ causing said escalations).
Anyways, fuck Cathay every "Cathayan" that crosses the border is target practice.
>>95858259
>"the best technology"
I'd like to see them compete against imperial steam tanks
>"all peaceful and holding off chaos"
Chink propaganda
>"the monarchy are literally divine"
Yet they can be killed by an imperial cannonball? Curious...
>"they have dragons"
We have gryphons, and more than five of them
I completely agree that Cathay is boring, but there's a difference between a fun setting with conflicts and edgy depression porn for guys that never got out of their faux-goth phase at high school. Fantasy generally didn't have stories about Childkiller McRape the Great Genocider going around the Empire killing 40% of its population every 6 months, at that point this setting becomes a completely ridiculous. Generally, if you create a setting in which killing yourself and your entire family is preferable over living one more day for the majority of the population then you stray into clown territory. Some serious mishaps by GW happened in the last few years culminating in the End Times slopfest, but let's not actually strive for that.
As a rule, instead of half the villages in the entirety of Middenland being completely rapegenocided every week, imagine the setting more as occasionally a peasant being lost to a local infestation of swamp trolls, or travelers and trading caravans being wiped off the map by the ocassional goblin or beastman band, with the town-wiping events being a big escalation that /yourdudes/ have to deal with (or alternatively, /yourdudes/ causing said escalations).
Anyways, fuck Cathay every "Cathayan" that crosses the border is target practice.
>>95858259
>"the best technology"
I'd like to see them compete against imperial steam tanks
>"all peaceful and holding off chaos"
Chink propaganda
>"the monarchy are literally divine"
Yet they can be killed by an imperial cannonball? Curious...
>"they have dragons"
We have gryphons, and more than five of them
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