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8/5/2025, 2:42:50 PM
>>16742311
>In this case, they are just fucked
Starship has been undeniably fucked since the start. It's in a downward spiral the same way Musk himself is with his ket addiction.
First off engine development was a disaster. Starship required wunderwaffe engines which were always pretty unrealistic. RS25 is the most magnificent first stage engine ever flown, and it was so good because of immense complexity and cost. Starship needed engines at least as good as the RS25, but using a less efficient fuel, and with the engines being an order of magnitude simpler to manufacture and fix. Was never going to happen because RS25 was already straddling the bounds of what is physically possible with chemical rockets.
Raptor has been in development for well over 10 years and still doesn't work. Musk compounds the problem by forcing the Raptor team to seek more thrust from the engines causing them to disintegrate simply when firing fora long time. Raptor iteration is nothing like RS25 iteration. RS25 was built within a safety spec and they could gradually upgrade the thrust toward the upper physical limit as they became more confident in the design. Raptor literally doesn't work where it is now, yet they are still trying to push it for more performance.
>In this case, they are just fucked
Starship has been undeniably fucked since the start. It's in a downward spiral the same way Musk himself is with his ket addiction.
First off engine development was a disaster. Starship required wunderwaffe engines which were always pretty unrealistic. RS25 is the most magnificent first stage engine ever flown, and it was so good because of immense complexity and cost. Starship needed engines at least as good as the RS25, but using a less efficient fuel, and with the engines being an order of magnitude simpler to manufacture and fix. Was never going to happen because RS25 was already straddling the bounds of what is physically possible with chemical rockets.
Raptor has been in development for well over 10 years and still doesn't work. Musk compounds the problem by forcing the Raptor team to seek more thrust from the engines causing them to disintegrate simply when firing fora long time. Raptor iteration is nothing like RS25 iteration. RS25 was built within a safety spec and they could gradually upgrade the thrust toward the upper physical limit as they became more confident in the design. Raptor literally doesn't work where it is now, yet they are still trying to push it for more performance.
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