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7/24/2025, 10:35:37 AM
>>716296657
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>>716294130
I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head but I'm pretty sure Cortes, Bernal Diaz, Andes de Tapia, the Anonymous Conqueror, Aguilar, etc mention it

>>716294248
The greentext you posted pretty much covers the basics and what i'd have said, honestly, aside from the fact that thousands of people weren't being sacrificed during the New Fire Ceremony, probably, unless you're talking about across like hundreds/thousands of cities and towns but see >>716289083

The main caveat i'd add off the top of my head is that the mouthed/eyed joints and taloned feet/hands are broader iconography associated with destructive goddesses or to a lesser extent death deities: Compare the Tzitzimime to the Cihuateteo (who are the ones women who died in childbirth could become), to feminine forms of Tlaltecuhtli, Itzpapalotl, etc. I also known that "Tzitzimime" is more a class of beings then a specific type of spirit, like Itzpaplotl is the "queen" of the Tzitzimime, and the Cihuateteo I assume(?) are some as well.

I'm unsure if Tlaltecuhtli was one, but she was also an earth goddess (and equated to the earth monster cipactli) and through Tlaltecuhtli you can also draw comparisons to the earth/mother goddess Coatlicue who also is sometimes depicted with destructive goddess features, see pic (notice also using serpent heads as a representation of blood streams here, like the rattlesnake coming out of the tzitzimitl's groin in your pic: either a phallus or a representation of menstruall blood)

In general Aztec gods often had their identities and aspects "flow" into one another (Tzitzimime to Tlatecuhtli to Coatlicue, and then to say Toci etc; or from the maize goddess Chicomecoatl to her irrigation goddess aspect Xilonen, who is also an aspect of the river/lake goddess Chalchiuhtlicue, as another example). There's a lot of debate in general about what being a "god" even means in Aztec theology or if they even had "gods" as concepts precisely

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