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4/28/2025, 6:42:31 AM
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You got it right on the FT part.
For Youmu and Yuyuko, there could be other systems: localized purity wards, energy scanners tuned to detect the "scent" of impurity, perhaps even Moon Rabbits psychically sensitive to it. This layer is crucial for detecting external threats (like Earthlings) or internal contamination. Youmu and Yuyuko, being non-Lunarian and non-Rabbit, would likely trigger this layer immediately, marking them as anomalies.
However, the system might have alert thresholds. Their kegare signature might have been enough to make them conspicuous and trigger alerts, but perhaps not high enough (or not identified as an immediate threat) to warrant instant detection and red alarms. Perhaps, they were even chalked up as false positives. After all, Youmu and Yuyuko are denizens of the Netherworld, which itself is a natural Pure Land. That must have counted for something? That, combined with hidden ghosty tricks, should enable them to sneak around a bit.
The act of drinking the Hourai Elixir, in my opinion, is the primary sin. It represents hubris by seeking forbidden power and defying the natural (or Lunarian-defined) order of existence. Lunarian longevity/amortality comes from living in a Pure Land, maintained through societal effort and adherence to strict rules. The Elixir might have been perceived as an external, artificial means to achieve a similar but superior end, bypassing their cultural and metaphysical framework. It's seen as impure in its method and origin. The result (eternal, unchanging existence) superficially aligns with the Lunarian ideal of escaping the cycles of life, death, and decay that create kegare. Still, it's the 'wrong' kind of stagnancy (if that makes sense). Lunarian amortality is tied to their environment and collective Purity; Hourai immortality is an individual, irreversible state imposed upon the natural order by a forbidden artifact. It breaks the rules of their carefully constructed reality.
It's highly plausible that a second sip only will still grant resistance to Impurity. Illness and bodily decay are significant sources of kegare. Removing susceptibility to illness would logically remove a major pathway for kegare to manifest or take root within an individual. A person who cannot get sick might be inherently more resistant to the biological aspects of impurity. Even so, kegare isn't just biological. It includes contact with death, sin, violation of taboo, and the general ambient impurity of impure lands like Earth. So, while a second-sip individual might be more resistant than a baseline human, they likely wouldn't achieve the state of a third-sip immortal. They would still be vulnerable to external sources or severe concentrations of kegare, just less susceptible to internal generation through illness.
True immortality (the third sip) removes the concepts of life, death, illness, and decay entirely from the individual. This should, theoretically, grant near-absolute immunity to kegare, as the fundamental processes that generate and attract it no longer apply to them. This fits with Kaguya and Eirin being able to exist on Earth/Gensokyo without apparent ill effects from kegare.
There are some complexities in the equation, though. Both are extremely powerful figures, with Kaguya being able to replicate Pure Lands' effect on Earth with her abilities, so it might be possible for her to find a way to stem or cancel kegare's effects on her and Eirin. I assume she would be able to figure out how to do this while she was still living amongst humans (The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter).
And Eirin is an ancient Lunarian sage with immense power beyond just the Elixir, and since the Hourai Elixir is named that way, she might have been on Mount Penglai/Hourai before herself to get ingredients. She might have been on Earth even before the making of the Hourai Elixir, in protection spells or advanced Lunarian exosuits shielding against Impurity.
You got it right on the FT part.
For Youmu and Yuyuko, there could be other systems: localized purity wards, energy scanners tuned to detect the "scent" of impurity, perhaps even Moon Rabbits psychically sensitive to it. This layer is crucial for detecting external threats (like Earthlings) or internal contamination. Youmu and Yuyuko, being non-Lunarian and non-Rabbit, would likely trigger this layer immediately, marking them as anomalies.
However, the system might have alert thresholds. Their kegare signature might have been enough to make them conspicuous and trigger alerts, but perhaps not high enough (or not identified as an immediate threat) to warrant instant detection and red alarms. Perhaps, they were even chalked up as false positives. After all, Youmu and Yuyuko are denizens of the Netherworld, which itself is a natural Pure Land. That must have counted for something? That, combined with hidden ghosty tricks, should enable them to sneak around a bit.
The act of drinking the Hourai Elixir, in my opinion, is the primary sin. It represents hubris by seeking forbidden power and defying the natural (or Lunarian-defined) order of existence. Lunarian longevity/amortality comes from living in a Pure Land, maintained through societal effort and adherence to strict rules. The Elixir might have been perceived as an external, artificial means to achieve a similar but superior end, bypassing their cultural and metaphysical framework. It's seen as impure in its method and origin. The result (eternal, unchanging existence) superficially aligns with the Lunarian ideal of escaping the cycles of life, death, and decay that create kegare. Still, it's the 'wrong' kind of stagnancy (if that makes sense). Lunarian amortality is tied to their environment and collective Purity; Hourai immortality is an individual, irreversible state imposed upon the natural order by a forbidden artifact. It breaks the rules of their carefully constructed reality.
It's highly plausible that a second sip only will still grant resistance to Impurity. Illness and bodily decay are significant sources of kegare. Removing susceptibility to illness would logically remove a major pathway for kegare to manifest or take root within an individual. A person who cannot get sick might be inherently more resistant to the biological aspects of impurity. Even so, kegare isn't just biological. It includes contact with death, sin, violation of taboo, and the general ambient impurity of impure lands like Earth. So, while a second-sip individual might be more resistant than a baseline human, they likely wouldn't achieve the state of a third-sip immortal. They would still be vulnerable to external sources or severe concentrations of kegare, just less susceptible to internal generation through illness.
True immortality (the third sip) removes the concepts of life, death, illness, and decay entirely from the individual. This should, theoretically, grant near-absolute immunity to kegare, as the fundamental processes that generate and attract it no longer apply to them. This fits with Kaguya and Eirin being able to exist on Earth/Gensokyo without apparent ill effects from kegare.
There are some complexities in the equation, though. Both are extremely powerful figures, with Kaguya being able to replicate Pure Lands' effect on Earth with her abilities, so it might be possible for her to find a way to stem or cancel kegare's effects on her and Eirin. I assume she would be able to figure out how to do this while she was still living amongst humans (The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter).
And Eirin is an ancient Lunarian sage with immense power beyond just the Elixir, and since the Hourai Elixir is named that way, she might have been on Mount Penglai/Hourai before herself to get ingredients. She might have been on Earth even before the making of the Hourai Elixir, in protection spells or advanced Lunarian exosuits shielding against Impurity.
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