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that's not a particularly high bar, support is literally god in this game with every fight boiling down to 'wait for one team to pop their immortality ult first'

character combos that would be otherwise memes (Storm/Jeff tornado) are legitimately considered solely for the fact that they fuck over support ults, meta boils down to how characters deal with support ults or force out support ults or prevent support ults or waste support ults, if you solo ult and keep Luna from ulting you have a net positive. It is legitimately ridiculous that nearly every single support ult that people consider 'useful' at a decent level is just getting heals shot up their ass for 10 seconds, and the ones that dare to NOT do that, not counting Loki (who is the best support in the game because his base kit is stupidly strong already and his ult lets him chain another support ult anyway) are like Adam (who is considered 'weak' and keeps getting nerfed because he does damage and requires more thought that 'shit out heals' but stays relevant because of rez comp), Rocket (who people swore up and down was dogshit because he dared to bring utility instead of healbotting with ult and then they changed it and now he's stupidly strong) and Ultron (who dares to again bring damage instead of shitting out constant burst heals constantly), and Jeff (got reworked into more of a healbot because fuck you for not playing the character right), even Mantis gets it now without going rez comp