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7/14/2025, 12:52:30 AM
All magic is natural. All magic is alien.
Renaissance magic was all about the distinction between natural man-made magic and unnatural magic-magic made by demons and angels and gods and such (and as such, natural to the minds of demons and angels and gods). The act of calling on a patron (summoning magic - Theurgy, Goetia, etc) was seen as the greater magic, while classical magic (that of miracle working, or Thaumaturgy) was seen as lesser magic, and the latter was usually from the former, or enhanced by the former. Whether nature was seen as a form of magic depended on the natural philosopher. “If you don’t see nature and science as magical or divine, then you don’t really appreciate nature and science so you?” was an easy argument starter. People were already in denial about Christian rites and masses being indistinguishable from witchcraft. Indeed, the greatest of reputed magical feats had been about unifying with the Godhead, or petitioning angels, etc.
People like Pliny the Elder (or one of the Plinys) in antiquity had assumed that all magic/sorcery/witchcraft/etc was just the equivalent of aliens (‘demons’) playing around with humans, and it’s all bullshit without such patrons, “but you should still entertain superstition just in case these demons are around to implement such stupidity”. It extends to the spirits, the gods, etc. Magic always just been veiled nature. “Magic”. It is Art enforced. It lies inside the mind’s eye. Even Aleister Crowley (a coiner of ‘Magick’ to separate it from stage magic) had acknowledged in the end that all magic IS a stage of some kind. There is no grander stage or black box than the black abyss that is deepest space. Nothing more alien. Magic IS the alien. This is also why science fiction is a lot more magical/fantastical than plain or typical fantasy, if done right. Magic is the product of alien exposures. “I don’t like it, therefore witchcraft”.
Renaissance magic was all about the distinction between natural man-made magic and unnatural magic-magic made by demons and angels and gods and such (and as such, natural to the minds of demons and angels and gods). The act of calling on a patron (summoning magic - Theurgy, Goetia, etc) was seen as the greater magic, while classical magic (that of miracle working, or Thaumaturgy) was seen as lesser magic, and the latter was usually from the former, or enhanced by the former. Whether nature was seen as a form of magic depended on the natural philosopher. “If you don’t see nature and science as magical or divine, then you don’t really appreciate nature and science so you?” was an easy argument starter. People were already in denial about Christian rites and masses being indistinguishable from witchcraft. Indeed, the greatest of reputed magical feats had been about unifying with the Godhead, or petitioning angels, etc.
People like Pliny the Elder (or one of the Plinys) in antiquity had assumed that all magic/sorcery/witchcraft/etc was just the equivalent of aliens (‘demons’) playing around with humans, and it’s all bullshit without such patrons, “but you should still entertain superstition just in case these demons are around to implement such stupidity”. It extends to the spirits, the gods, etc. Magic always just been veiled nature. “Magic”. It is Art enforced. It lies inside the mind’s eye. Even Aleister Crowley (a coiner of ‘Magick’ to separate it from stage magic) had acknowledged in the end that all magic IS a stage of some kind. There is no grander stage or black box than the black abyss that is deepest space. Nothing more alien. Magic IS the alien. This is also why science fiction is a lot more magical/fantastical than plain or typical fantasy, if done right. Magic is the product of alien exposures. “I don’t like it, therefore witchcraft”.
7/8/2025, 4:42:01 PM
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>This is why western magic is 95% LARP
There’s more LARP to be had in Asia. All magic depends on some external intelligence and Asians are the most womanly in the face of it. Even Crowley knew that magic was just aliens in the end, or a big stage, not purely mental illness (although mental illness is a big part of it).
>psychedelics
Crowley took a lot of psychedelics.
>This is why western magic is 95% LARP
There’s more LARP to be had in Asia. All magic depends on some external intelligence and Asians are the most womanly in the face of it. Even Crowley knew that magic was just aliens in the end, or a big stage, not purely mental illness (although mental illness is a big part of it).
>psychedelics
Crowley took a lot of psychedelics.
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