im thinking Landman and Forbes are going to secret contributors this upcoming year, if Forbes gets anywhere near that first round pick potential it would have been a steal, im thinking the extra offseason work and added weight will really help him from being bullied and Landman has been an underrated player in the league he regressed a bit last year but hes been playing for the failcunts and probably started checking out knowing how hopeless it was out there so I forgive him.