I think the fundamental issue I have with zoomers is just that they are too pop for me to really get down with them. You can't listen to metal or rock or whatever without boring them. Let alone jazz or electronic music. It's all just tween girl taset and yet even the dudes have that sort of musical sensibility nowadays. I don't even really think the doom ost isn't anything better than slipknot as well. The thing is, I actually like the newer vocaloid stuff more than the old ones, back then that shit was just too cheesy for me to like but is that like all the shit you listen to zoomoids? That's also why I stick with manga and don't watch anime. Even if that vampire banana tit lady looks fine as hell